RedCollarBlackCollar said:
Nah, not really. Only thing would be the skirt and hair colors being kinda similar, but doesn't get too easily lost. I think for now is fine. Do you have plans for this character to appear on the Hub as a dom?
Nah, sorry. Her background is that she's an alchemist/witch that can change the size of matter. So my planned fetishes for her include hyper, giantess, macro/micro, size shaming, cuckolding, vore and cockvore. So she'll be involved in a lot of mind breaking, but currently I don't have plans to involve her in mind control XD
Yuu-chan said:
Nah, sorry. Her background is that she's an alchemist/witch that can change the size of matter. So my planned fetishes for her include hyper, giantess, macro/micro, size shaming, cuckolding, vore and cockvore. So she'll be involved in a lot of mind breaking, but currently I don't have plans to involve her in mind control XD
I've always been willing to stand against "kink shaming," especially along the lines of the smoking posts in the past (which I honestly don't have too big an issue since they're just fetish illustrations). But hearing "cockvore..." Jeezus O_____O
RedCollarBlackCollar said:
I've always been willing to stand against "kink shaming," especially along the lines of the smoking posts in the past (which I honestly don't have too big an issue since they're just fetish illustrations). But hearing "cockvore..." Jeezus O_____O
Yeah that is something that cross a line for me and I'm into plenty.
Okay, I'm at a loss here. I've been working on this WIP for a good while:

http://sta.sh/018cdpw7o2uy
(Futa/Loli Warning)

I finished sketching it out and I want to clean it up with loose shading/coloring, but I have no idea how to go about doing that. I legit only know how to do clean color for clean lineart. I started attempting something with the hair, but I'm not digging it too much. And though I would kinda like to keep going with what I was doing, I don't feel the result would be worth the time I'd put in (just the one twintail took me ~35 minutes). What I want is to kinda make the pic look nice, but I don't want to invest the time it would take to fully polish it. I want the lines to be cleaner and to have at least some shading or coloring, but I feel like everything I try to do ends up taking just as much as it would to do clean ink and color. What am I doing wrong? What should I do? I'm completely fucking frustrated and have no idea how to move forward with this pic.
Well I guess i should have a go, go ahead and critique me if you don't mind but only the stuff i've posted myself within the last year.
Alright, I decided to scrap the coloring I had and lined the pic, which actually came out pretty well. I've applied flat colors, I'm not digging them too much, but I'll see how they look after I do some shading.

Ver 2.0: http://sta.sh/05uzahtrsnj
malroth said:
Well I guess i should have a go, go ahead and critique me if you don't mind but only the stuff i've posted myself within the last year.
malroth said:
New pic is up http://hypnohub.net/post/show/43261/brown_hair-empty_eyes-expressionless-female_only-f this hurts but its the only way i get better
Sry for taking like two years to get back to ya. I'll try and give some feedback, hopefully nothing too rude/negative.

For starters, I feel like some of your figure drawing's a bit too segmented and disconnected at the same time. In this post for example, the upper arms seemed really thin in comparison to the lower ones. The twintails girl's right hand especially is more connected to the arm than existing as a hand itself. The necks of the other two girls as well extend between their heads and hair (as far as the skin coloring goes), which kinda has me thinking that you're drawing out the overall image, rather than the people as individual figures. I don't know that for sure, just a little speculation.

Otherwise, you do a decent enough job with you artwork. Line art's sometimes bit janky/crooked here and there, but nothing too outlandish. My biggest gripe though would be the shading, mainly on the clothes: Don't use black/greys, as makes them look kinda dull. Maybe that's not the case, but when I see a few pics and compare em to like this image (with the hair), looks a lot nicer.

Only thing I wanna see would be characters with some more expressions/dynamic poses, since lot of them are mostly expressionless and empty eyed. Nothing wrong with that, just curious to see some more. Hope I didn't say anything in poor taste; wish ya the best with your work bud.
This started out just as a drawing of Yukari Yakumo, and turned into a lewd short-series. Just wondering if you guys think it's worth continuing:

http://sta.sh/21n1cucdej5v
Yuu-chan said:
This started out just as a drawing of Yukari Yakumo, and turned into a lewd short-series. Just wondering if you guys think it's worth continuing:

http://sta.sh/21n1cucdej5v
Pretty nice. I'm assuming it's two hands that have pressed into her breasts? Bit hard to tell with just that, but yeah, nice start.
someguy231 said:
Got done Drawing Lucina. And I need halp on hands. Like seriously. http://img10.deviantart.net/90ef/i/2017/010/a/c/drawing_of_lucina_aka_i_fucking_hate_hands_by_someguy231-dauziic.jpg
>Left arm's way too short
>Face is a single shape; needs some more curves on it to look more natural, and less pointed chin
>>Line art's really faded in certain areas

I'd recommend sticking to just line art for now, as that way we can give some better feedback for lines that are easier to see. Shading aint too bad, but it makes it tougher to see certain parts of it.
RedCollarBlackCollar said:
>Left arm's way too short
>Face is a single shape; needs some more curves on it to look more natural, and less pointed chin
>>Line art's really faded in certain areas

I'd recommend sticking to just line art for now, as that way we can give some better feedback for lines that are easier to see. Shading aint too bad, but it makes it tougher to see certain parts of it.
Looking at it, yeah that left arm is hobbit size. :/ Damn it.
someguy231 said:
Looking at it, yeah that left arm is hobbit size. :/ Damn it.
Dude, I feel ya. I never notice that kinda stuff until someone points it out. I swear I should just have like an editor or proofreader or something... proof-artlooker?
RedCollarBlackCollar said:
Pretty nice. I'm assuming it's two hands that have pressed into her breasts? Bit hard to tell with just that, but yeah, nice start.
Erm, no... Those are two erect dicks ^^; I know it's a bit unrealistic for a dick to be able to push into a woman's breasts like that, but meh, hentai logic XD
Doxy has lots of mini art tutorials on his site http://prismblush.com/tutorials/ and on his youtube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCk_rl9hO9bhPM2IUQFDh8yg/videos

I especially recommend the ones talking about the sketching process and staying loose. Many inexperienced artists tend to skip a lot the rough exploratory phases of drawing to go straight into outlines, which tends to lead to flat and/or bad art in general.
Muddle said:
Doxy has lots of mini art tutorials on his site http://prismblush.com/tutorials/ and on his youtube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCk_rl9hO9bhPM2IUQFDh8yg/videos

I especially recommend the ones talking about the sketching process and staying loose. Many inexperienced artists tend to skip a lot the rough exploratory phases of drawing to go straight into outlines, which tends to lead to flat and/or bad art in general.
Weeeeell there goes a ton of my motivation for tonight. I now feel even stupider and like everything I do is wrong >.<
Yuu-chan said:
Weeeeell there goes a ton of my motivation for tonight. I now feel even stupider and like everything I do is wrong >.<
Don't take it that way. Seeing new ways to tackle art shouldn't hinder your motivation to draw, it should do the opposite.
Yuu-chan said:
Weeeeell there goes a ton of my motivation for tonight. I now feel even stupider and like everything I do is wrong >.<
I think learning some new stuff from scratch is pretty fun. Also it's kinda fun just to move the pencil/tablet pen around in general. Try drawing to music, especially some jammin 3rd strike remixes.
Try mixing in new stuff with the old. The guides don't really suggest a completely wrong answer for anything, so it's loose. Go nuts with it. Stream your practice, and chat with some weirdos in the... chat.
Muddle said:
Don't take it that way. Seeing new ways to tackle art shouldn't hinder your motivation to draw, it should do the opposite.
Finding out that I've been doing it wrong doesn't exactly make me motivated. Plus I don't understand a thing this guy's doing anyway, which makes the fact that it's the right way even worse for me cuz I've got no idea how to duplicate it.
So I'm probably going to tweak my latest pic this weekend. I noticed I left off a bunch of detail on Pippa's top and it's bugging me. Is there anything else people think I should fix on it?

http://hypnohub.net/post/show/43809
Yuu-chan said:
Finding out that I've been doing it wrong doesn't exactly make me motivated. Plus I don't understand a thing this guy's doing anyway, which makes the fact that it's the right way even worse for me cuz I've got no idea how to duplicate it.
There isn't a SINGLE way of doing it right. There are countless methods to sketch, ink and colour and you just need to find the one you prefer most and find yourself most comfortable with. You shouldn't feel bad because some professionals do things differently, but see what can you learn from it and add to your style.

someguy231 said:
Looking at it, yeah that left arm is hobbit size. :/ Damn it.
Always remember when drawing arms, the character should be able to fap while standing! u0e/
Psi said:
There isn't a SINGLE way of doing it right. There are countless methods to sketch, ink and colour and you just need to find the one you prefer most and find yourself most comfortable with. You shouldn't feel bad because some professionals do things differently, but see what can you learn from it and add to your style.

Always remember when drawing arms, the character should be able to fap while standing! u0e/
Very true. It was pretty much a sensory overload when I first started on DA and was constantly comparing myself to these amazing artists around the world (truly, let that sink in for a second - thanks to glorious internet, you can't help but weigh yourself against the most disciplined, most talented, best artists in the world.). I went through a lengthy phase of feeling like I had to try and replicate every great piece of art I saw, and it was pretty darn overwhelming and depressing.

If you see an art technique that feels unnatural or makes you say 'god I can't do this,' then it just probably isn't a good fit for you. Maybe it's something you can pick up and apply further down the road when you're more confident in your own style.

In reference to you specifically Yuu-Chan, the most important thing is having a unique, identifiable style. And you have that :-) I can look at your work and instantly say 'ah, that's a Yuu-Chan piece.' Confidence in your own style is the foundation upon which everything else is built - you cannot be a good artist without it. So as soon as you are able to truly feel comfortable in the fact that you do have an original style, everything else will start falling into place - you will be much more able to improve the little things without sacrificing what makes you special.

Having said that, it is still necessary to absorb the basic fundamentals that all artists rely on, consciously or not. I tended to neglect fundamentals in school - coasting on my talent like the arrogant prick I was - and I suffered unknowingly for a long time without them. But even though I still haven't internalized formal muscle and skeletal structures, I have managed to piece together some very effective fundamentals that have improved my art considerably the past couple years.

When drawing a figure, these are the rules of proportion / relativity that I stick to. I always run these rules through my head and check them against each other when sketching a figure, and they've helped me immensely.

- eyes should be in the center of the overall head (that whole drawing a cross through the center of an oval is surprisingly effective)
- the tops of the ears should be in-line with the eyes
- navel should be be roughly on the halfway point of the torso, measuring from collarbone to bottom of crotch.
- navel should be roughly where the waist ends and slope of the hips begin
- if you're standing at attention, your elbows should be roughly in-line with your navel
- your forearms are roughly the same length as your feet
- the palm is pentagon-shaped, not square. Internalizing this simple fact makes it so much easier to draw hands and know where fingers, thumbs, and palm creases sit in relation to each other.
- (I wish I had a definitive set of rules for feet, because I feel I've gotten pretty good with those lately; but that process is still a little too intuitive for me)

I hope some of that helps :-)
RedCollarBlackCollar said:
>Face is a single shape; needs some more curves on it to look more natural, and less pointed chin
So, I just go back to this one portion of what you had to point out. I was wondering if you can give a visual example so I can understand better. Not to sound like an ass if I do.
someguy231 said:
So, I just go back to this one portion of what you had to point out. I was wondering if you can give a visual example so I can understand better. Not to sound like an ass if I do.
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/b7/40/ea/b740ea56e05e72c5777d17c95c0c0194.jpg
http://i.allheart.com/images/detail/acc-a-20/1_acc-a-20_750.jpg

Notice how human heads are not simple shapes; they have curves in them, be it the eye socket, the jaw, all the way down to the chin, so on and so forth.
RedCollarBlackCollar said:
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/b7/40/ea/b740ea56e05e72c5777d17c95c0c0194.jpg
http://i.allheart.com/images/detail/acc-a-20/1_acc-a-20_750.jpg

Notice how human heads are not simple shapes; they have curves in them, be it the eye socket, the jaw, all the way down to the chin, so on and so forth.
Thanks man. This will be helpful for later pieces.
So I have the finalized version of one of my Yukari drawings: http://sta.sh/025mvalasx15

Should I bother with shading the other ones? I don't know if it'd be worth it since this one looks like crap, but I don't think it'd take too long to do.
Psi said:
Always remember when drawing arms, the character should be able to fap while standing! u0e/
I just saw this comment. Pure gold right here. :D
Yuu-chan said:
So I have the finalized version of one of my Yukari drawings: http://sta.sh/025mvalasx15

Should I bother with shading the other ones? I don't know if it'd be worth it since this one looks like crap, but I don't think it'd take too long to do.
I like that one! *_*
Well, I decided to go ahead and shade all 4 pics in the Yukari sequence. Not sure if I'll bother uploading them anywhere since I'm really not happy with them.