RedCollarBlackCollar said:
Yeah, I feel like feet + barefoot should be one of the same thing.

I don't know if "non-human feet" should be its own tag, as that will only make it's usage fairly confusing.

Foot worship is mainly just people literally worshipping one's feet, so I'm unsure if that would be the tag used for "emphasis of feet."
No, no. First of all, "no_shoes" and "barefoot" are not the same thing. Barefoot means bare feet. No shoes means no shoes, but they could still be wearing socks, pantyhose, tights, etc. If we ever get rid of the "feet" tag, we'd have to replace it with something like "no_shoes," but we'd still need the "barefoot" tag. Second, yes, we need "non-human_feet" since we added it specifically because people asked for it. Some people like human feet but don't want to see animal/monster feet. And as I said before, "foot_focus" makes the most sense for a tag specifically for an emphasis on feet.
Mindwipe said:
No, no. First of all, "no_shoes" and "barefoot" are not the same thing. Barefoot means bare feet. No shoes means no shoes, but they could still be wearing socks, pantyhose, tights, etc. If we ever get rid of the "feet" tag, we'd have to replace it with something like "no_shoes," but we'd still need the "barefoot" tag. Second, yes, we need "non-human_feet" since we added it specifically because people asked for it. Some people like human feet but don't want to see animal/monster feet. And as I said before, "foot_focus" makes the most sense for a tag specifically for an emphasis on feet.
Seconding the foot_focus tag idea
Grim said:
do we need either boobs or breasts as tags?
As far as I understand it, broad tags like breasts are basically a catch-all for when someone doesn't want to be too specific when searching.

It's the same reason we have a cum/semen tag despite having so many cum* tags; some people are looking for something very specific, others aren't.

It's true that you can get similar results with tags like female and futanari, but I think it's one of those "better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it" tags.

I honestly never really thought about whether it was necessary or not, I just kind of assumed that it was just one of those tags that every booru had.
Mindwipe said:
No, no. First of all, "no_shoes" and "barefoot" are not the same thing. Barefoot means bare feet. No shoes means no shoes, but they could still be wearing socks, pantyhose, tights, etc. If we ever get rid of the "feet" tag, we'd have to replace it with something like "no_shoes," but we'd still need the "barefoot" tag. Second, yes, we need "non-human_feet" since we added it specifically because people asked for it. Some people like human feet but don't want to see animal/monster feet. And as I said before, "foot_focus" makes the most sense for a tag specifically for an emphasis on feet.
Well if that's the case, then that's all the more reason there should be further distinction. I said that they should be the same thing (like how yuri and lesbian are both linked) in regards to how they're currently being used. But in your explanation, yes, there could be a new version of the tag to keep people from being confused.

In regards to "non-human feet", that was something I more or less had mixed feelings on due to the issue of "feet = barefoot" from my original understanding. That, and I assumed that most people would ignore the tag in favor of specific ones (like the "hooves" tag that brought this up), so I wasn't sure if there was a point to have a general tag that would be ignored. Unless any time hooves or other such tags are used, "non-human feet" are linked to it as a child tag, which could maybe be a solution.

I agree, though I hope that the tag doesn't become a subjective issue.
RedCollarBlackCollar said:
Unless any time hooves or other such tags are used, "non-human feet" are linked to it as a child tag, which could maybe be a solution.
I think things would work better if hooves was aliased to non-human_feet, there aren't enough images with the hooves tag to warrant making it implicate non-human_feet. The paws tag could also be aliased to non-human_feet for the same reason.
bugmenot said:
I think things would work better if hooves was aliased to non-human_feet, there aren't enough images with the hooves tag to warrant making it implicate non-human_feet. The paws tag could also be aliased to non-human_feet for the same reason.
makes sense to me

bugmenot said:
As far as I understand it, broad tags like breasts are basically a catch-all for when someone doesn't want to be too specific when searching.
well alrighty then, seems a legit reason

Mindwipe said:
And as I said before, "foot_focus" makes the most sense for a tag specifically for an emphasis on feet.
personally I prefer foot-fetish, since I feel that's a more commonly used term, but I'm not opposed to using foot_focus..... now, who's going to change all those?

maybe an announcement could be made: NEED FOOT FETISH USERS TO GO THROUGH HUB'S PICS AND CHANGE TAGS - CONTACT ADMIN FOR ASSIGNMENT

and then split it up like "take pages 30-40, and then contact me again if you still want to continue"
just an idea for leveraging manpower of people who would already be interested.... or maybe an announcement of a forum post where, after things are agreed upon here, a list of changes and requests to contact 'x' admin for assignments can be regularly placed and updated
Grim said:
personally I prefer foot-fetish, since I feel that's a more commonly used term, but I'm not opposed to using foot_focus..... now, who's going to change all those?

maybe an announcement could be made: NEED FOOT FETISH USERS TO GO THROUGH HUB'S PICS AND CHANGE TAGS - CONTACT ADMIN FOR ASSIGNMENT

and then split it up like "take pages 30-40, and then contact me again if you still want to continue"
just an idea for leveraging manpower of people who would already be interested.... or maybe an announcement of a forum post where, after things are agreed upon here, a list of changes and requests to contact 'x' admin for assignments can be regularly placed and updated
If we do indeed make these changes, and I say "if" because this is a pretty big change of a very frequently-used tag that I think should have more input on before going into effect, then I'll make a news post informing people and asking for assistance where needed. Luckily, certain things can be done easily as an administrator, such as changing "feet" to "no_shoes".
Does anyone have any thoughts on the sleepy tag? I feel like it's kind of unnecessary.

How about a half-closed_eyes or partially-closed_eyes tag instead, since that seems to be more or less how the sleepy tag is being used?
bugmenot said:
Does anyone have any thoughts on the sleepy tag? I feel like it's kind of unnecessary.

How about a half-closed_eyes or partially-closed_eyes tag instead, since that seems to be more or less how the sleepy tag is being used?
I have no idea when or why that tag was made. "dazed" is what's supposed to be use for partially-closed eyes. Though, honestly, we should probably just change that tag to "partially-closed_eyes" because "dazed" isn't very clear.
Regardless of the outcome (though I second the foot_focus tag) I'd be happy to sift through all the posts and change tags should that ever proved necessary. I like grinding *shrug* :)

I like barefoot or socked feet (thigh highs, represent!) but I have no foot fetish and don't care too much about a picture usually if he feet are the only focus. Just my two cents!
Mindwipe said:
I have no idea when or why that tag was made. "dazed" is what's supposed to be use for partially-closed eyes. Though, honestly, we should probably just change that tag to "partially-closed_eyes" because "dazed" isn't very clear.
That sounds good, but I don't think you can just alias dazed to partially-closed_eyes.

Right now, dazed appears to be a mixture of partially-closed_eyes, expressionless, and empty_eyes, which further solidifies your point about it being ambiguous.

Edit: I can help out with changing the tags if you'd like, just tell me what to do.
Mindwipe said:
I have no idea when or why that tag was made. "dazed" is what's supposed to be use for partially-closed eyes. Though, honestly, we should probably just change that tag to "partially-closed_eyes" because "dazed" isn't very clear.
I usually only apply dazed if there is some symbols near the head, like

http://hypnohub.net/post/show/27570/aladdin_-series-cat_girl-cheetah_girl-dazed-disney

or

http://hypnohub.net/post/show/1135/batman_-series-boots-dc_comics-female_only-femdom-

given context, I essentially take it as another signifier for mind control, like various eye effects [spirals, rings, kaa, etc]
The plushie and stuffed_animal tags should probably be combined. Danbooru aliases plushie to stuffed_animal.
RedCollarBlackCollar said:
The Siren tag confuses me...
http://hypnohub.net/post?tags=siren
Let's see...

Images with adagio_dazzle, sonata_dusk, and aria_blaze may be tagged as siren because their group, The Dazzlings are Sirens, so maybe we could use siren_(my_little_pony) or similar? Or not; I don't necessarily think this warrants a new tag.

Post #1051 refers to Siren, a boss from Final Fantasy V, so we could make that one siren_(final_fantasy) or siren_(final_fantasy_v).

Post #30761 features The Sirens from Samurai Jack, so either siren_(samurai_jack), or perhaps the_sirens_(samurai_jack) would be more appropriate, since (I think) they're almost always seen together.

And finally, unless I'm missing something, post #38279 seems to just refer to the sirens of Greek mythology.

I'm tempted to say we should only create new tags for the Samurai Jack and Final Fantasy characters and just tag the other images with hypnotic_audio or similar.
A couple more potentially unnecessary tags: happy could be replaced by either happy_trance or smile on a case-by-case basis.

I really don't think limp needs to exist, is there a better tag for that sort of thing? catalepsy is tangentially related, but its meaning isn't obvious at a glance and it's not really a tag someone would search for. Should we consider renaming it to something easier to remember?

Also, do we need the bisexual tag? It's not frequently used and seems to be quite subjective in most cases.

Next, the naughty_smile, seductive_smile, and naughty_face tags: Danbooru aliases naughty_smile to naughty_face and states that seductive_smile is like naughty_face but "less mischievous".
Is it worth it to (subjectively) differentiate between them when there's only a total of about 180 images with those tags on here?
RedCollarBlackCollar said:
http://hypnohub.net/post?tags=engrish

Just... why
It's a tag used on other boorus, and it's appropriate for posts with broken English.
So any progress on the foot thing?

barefoot has an alias in bare_feet, neither of which implies feet ? That's wrong.
foot_focus could be subjective, so I like the idea of tagging feet by size.

I will suffer the feet query and update them, I just need standards for measurement. Then when they're all converted, bare_feet could alias feet (bare_feet should be the primary tag).

limp is in my fetish as a matter of which limb is limp, so, maybe limps could be changed to limp_arm (one is enough), limp_neck, and catalepsy. catalepsy implies limp everything?
Lloyd said:
limp is in my fetish as a matter of which limb is limp, so, maybe limps could be changed to limp_arm (one is enough), limp_neck, and catalepsy.
The only problem I see with that is there aren't enough images with the limp tag (12) to warrant different tags for each limp limb.

Lloyd said:
catalepsy implies limp everything?
Catalepsy implies stiff/rigid limbs or bodies. I only mentioned it because it seemed related, and it's such an obscure term that nobody would really search for it (so it needs to be changed to something easier to remember/search).
can an admin change cyclops from character to general type tag? Of the 59 samples I glanced through, all pertained to a character having only one eye, not being named cyclops [such as Scott Summers supranym] or being a traditional cyclops of mythology
bugmenot said:
As far as I understand it, broad tags like breasts are basically a catch-all for when someone doesn't want to be too specific when searching.
alright, but one of those tags should be aliased, at least
Grim said:
can an admin change cyclops from character to general type tag?
Anyone can do that, not just the admins. Just go to http://hypnohub.net/tag and search for the tag you want to change, click edit, and change the type.

Grim said:
alright, but one of those tags should be aliased, at least
Boobs is currently aliased to breasts, but I've gone ahead and requested several tag implications regarding *_breasts -> breasts.
There's a Koumei Shokatsuryou from Ikki Tousen, and another Koumei Shokatsuryou from Mask of Zeguy. How do we tag them, do we just put their respective series after their names?
http://hypnohub.net/post?tags=sexuality_change
I don’t want to dredge this up again, but Sexuality Change keeps having posts added to it that aren’t images that full-on depict it.

Even one’s with Crystal and Erika have been added in the past, which bugs me because the tag tends to crop up mainly for homosexual characters fucking the opposite sex, and has been used in this case to represent them going from hetero to homo. But there are many yuri images with them that haven’t had the tag added, so I don’t understand which do and don’t count.

I ASSUME that the tag is all about sexuality changing being the focus, given how there is a lot of porn out there where characters just fuck anyone and everyone, despite it going against their cannon.
bugmenot said:
Anyone can do that, not just the admins. Just go to http://hypnohub.net/tag and search for the tag you want to change, click edit, and change the type.
now I know, and knowing is half the battle!

RedCollarBlackCollar said:
http://hypnohub.net/post?tags=sexuality_change

I ASSUME that the tag is all about sexuality changing being the focus, given how there is a lot of porn out there where characters just fuck anyone and everyone, despite it going against their cannon.
huh, I wasn't even aware we had a sexuality change tag

this is probably giving people too much credit, but could it be context? IE, what is being assumed in the worldview of the pic

an extreme example would be commander Sheppard - is he/she straight, gay, bi? A scene where femshep is dominating Liara might presume both are gay, whereas Liara domming femshep might presume Liara gay and femshep straight.... and to be clear, another Liara domming femshep pic might presume both gay again

this might be a bad example since commander Sheppard is inherently variable in both gender and sexuality, but given that an artist might render characters off model, so too characterization might render a character differently-cannoned - this might be especially true for art drawn from children's cartoons where the characters don't express a sexual preference

there might also be a distinction being made between commanding someone to engage in sexual relations with their opposite preferred gender, and commanding someone to change their gender preference - some people might not see the first example as a sexuality_change, because it is being overridden, not altered

or maybe people are just using it wrong
Liara might not be the best example as her species is all female [compared to us humans] and is able to breed with practically every other species via mind sex.
so, this will mostly be about how "bimbofication" is a tag yet "futanarization" isn't!
someone (can't remember who) had said this about it to me:

"Bimbofication is a subgenre within transformation that has a plethora of content that is not in any way niche. Also, transformation tends to involve the physical and mental change of an individual, while bimbofication can only be the mental or personality change (usually becoming "dumbed down") of an individual. But outside of that, "futa transformation" or "futanarization" is too niche of a tag. Same could be said about people being transformed into pool toys, weird aliens, etc. It's too specific, and thus clutters the tagging system."

but honestly, there are two things that i don't agree with in this comment.
1. being transformed into a bimbo is ALSO too specific! (because turning into a bimbo is a transformation of the body just like this person said with this in a earlier comment: "people being transformed into pool toys, weird aliens, etc.")
2. futanarization isn't really all that specific since there are a lot of ways a person can turn into a futa! (see the nightmare fuel tag for ways that could be!)

in short, i honestly can't see why a "bimbofication" tag exists when a "futanarization" tag doesn't!

(i'm sure this forum is only for discussions on tags that are approved by the creator/s of hypnohub. so if that's the case, can someone send me a link to the "new tags" forum?)
So, now that his name is apparently Amamiya Ren and not Kurusu Akira anymore, do we change every tag of the main P5 protagonist from Akira_Kurusu to Ren_Amamiya?
ElisaSky said:
So, now that his name is apparently Amamiya Ren and not Kurusu Akira anymore, do we change every tag of the main P5 protagonist from Akira_Kurusu to Ren_Amamiya?
if that's his name then yeah