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Do your WORST, comments! Bring, it, ON!
waverun said:
Do your WORST, comments! Bring, it, ON!
Please, just... why?
waverun said:
Do your WORST, comments! Bring, it, ON!
I feel you'll come to regret that.

However, while it's not my worst, variously:

- You cut off the feet entirely.
- Also didn't have space at the top of the page for the top of the head, I see.
- A human torso is not narrower than the head
- A person's fingers do not reach past their knees. They generally reach slightly past the mid point of the upper leg, if that.
- The hand holding the pendulum has too many fingers.
- Line quality is still a mess.
- But I mean all of this is naturally understandable given it's only been Four. Fucking. Days.
- Maximum Dunning-Kruger effect
waverun said:
Do your WORST, comments! Bring, it, ON!
His torso is in the shape of a dick, even has the ridge for the head
His knees look like they bend backwards
Arms are too long, should end around the waist
Fingers are way too long, and too thin

Pal if you want somewhere to have people help you get better at art there are better sites than this, and if for some reason you are insistant on using this site, post in the fourms using imgur.
His right hand has no wrist
Hey, it's better than harlequin babies :P

(Do not search it up)
Myuk said:
Hey, it's better than harlequin babies :P

(Do not search it up)
Well I just had to, with a comment like that

I regret it, bit I couldn't help myself
" Reason: Poor anatomy. " jesus christ, why are the people on this site acting like such entitled little shits
Uhhhmmm this is a porn site. Its purpose is to deliver fappable (or maybe funny) QUALITY content for people who come here. It's good that you started to practise drawing, but to share your progress at this point and get feedback, I think there are much better media and sites. I'm not saying you shouldn't, it's good and I encourage it! But this is not the place.
waverun said:
Do your WORST, comments! Bring, it, ON!
When I sent a comment that took me about 3 minutes to write, explaining IN DETAIL what you had done wrong in your previous image, and other people also took the time to explain how you could get better, that was not a chance for you to assume we were all being assholes, upload MORE art with almost no skill improvement, and assume you are in the right because it's a style or some shit like that. Art isn't something you can hear how to get better at and suddenly BECOME better at. You have to actually practice for more than a few days, otherwise you won't get better. This is still a long way from quality, and you still haven't fixed half the errors I pointed out in your original post. You still draw as if the perspective is looking downwards on someone, which is incorrect for this situation, and now you've become so delusional in your pursuit of getting better you refuse to accept criticism as criticism, and instead say things like "do your worst!" as if we're the bad guys and your art is fantastic. Grow up, stop posting every few days expecting to have made a breakthrough, and learn to take a hint.
AuburnHamster said:
" Reason: Poor anatomy. " jesus christ, why are the people on this site acting like such entitled little shits
The anatomy is off. We're not acting like anything, it's a true statement.
waverun said:
Do your WORST, comments! Bring, it, ON!
*glares melodramatically* You did this on purpose, didn't you...?

All other quality concerns aside, your lines have gotten MUCH cleaner. I can see progress. Still, you have a LOT to work on. Be patient and keep practicing.

Pastel-Daemon said:
- Maximum Dunning-Kruger effect
I am so, so sad that the Dunning-Kruger effect has been all but disproved. As an MMO gamer, I see what looks like the Dunning-Kruger effect in action every single day, so I was oh-so sure it was valid when I stumbled upon it for the first time.

AuburnHamster said:
" Reason: Poor anatomy. " jesus christ, why are the people on this site acting like such entitled little shits
To be completely fair, someone will always have this reaction no matter HOW a flagging is worded. Hell, "poor anatomy" is as clear, concise, and neutral as a flagging reason can get. Far less insulting than something like "low effort" or "bad quality ____", which are far too commonly used in flaggings here.

Anyway, I'll bring this to the QCC.
Just... just look at a picture of a human...
literally... that's it...
then you can spot 90% of the problems...
I've said this before, I'll say it again: stop posting your stuff here and get a blog. You're not yet at the point where your works should be posted here. They're gonna get deleted, you're gonna get shit on, you're gonna ignore the many valid criticisms and advice we've given you, and you're gonna blame us when it's you being stubborn.

Your art is bad. You're an amateur. A day or two of minimal work is not going to fix that.

Try again in AT LEAST a month. Preferably, you should wait several months, if not longer. And during that time, you need to be drawing at least an hour every day. Start a blog someplace. Fill up a sketchbook or two. Just don't post here, or else people are gonna get meaner and meaner to you (and deservedly so, since you aren't listening to us when we're being nice).
AuburnHamster said:
" Reason: Poor anatomy. " jesus christ, why are the people on this site acting like such entitled little shits
Are you seriously going to insult us for criticizing this stuff? Cause yeah, completely ignoring it or acting like the post is perfectly fine would be the better solution, eh?
And beyond that, how does that make us entitled or little shits (like this coulda been flagged with a really rude reason if anything...)? The anatomy IS really far off and still needs some major improvement, so I don't understand why you want to pick a fight with us pal... •____•
plsignore said:
I've said this before, I'll say it again: stop posting your stuff here and get a blog. You're not yet at the point where your works should be posted here. They're gonna get deleted, you're gonna get shit on, you're gonna ignore the many valid criticisms and advice we've given you, and you're gonna blame us when it's you being stubborn.

Your art is bad. You're an amateur. A day or two of minimal work is not going to fix that.

Try again in AT LEAST a month. Preferably, you should wait several months, if not longer. And during that time, you need to be drawing at least an hour every day. Start a blog someplace. Fill up a sketchbook or two. Just don't post here, or else people are gonna get meaner and meaner to you (and deservedly so, since you aren't listening to us when we're being nice).
I went outta my way to give advice, and even in the end when I'm DEMANDED to give him a website instead of just suggesting to "study" (which I actually told em to go sketch people outside for practice as it helps me and also pointed to a website one of u guys originally brought up), ofc all that gets completely ignored. It's getting to the point where I'm really getting annoyed with this kinda attitude of how constantly posting this stuff is like a declaration of challenge, as if he figures we all wanna tear him down; yet most of our advice is just glossed over regardless...
Vanndril said:
I am so, so sad that the Dunning-Kruger effect has been all but disproved. As an MMO gamer, I see what looks like the Dunning-Kruger effect in action every single day, so I was oh-so sure it was valid when I stumbled upon it for the first time.
I don't know. I've fallen victim to thinking my stuff was good plenty of times before. It just takes an additional month of practice to look back and realize you were shit.
Your heads are good, everything south of that...
this is intentionally shitty, this guy's obviously getting a rise out of you all taking him seriously.
Ogodei-Khan said:
Your heads are good, everything south of that...
Oh thank you. I'll keep making more of the weirdly-shaped heads.

Vanndril said:
*glares melodramatically* You did this on purpose, didn't you...?
I kind of knew people would try to hurl their criticisms and complaints at me so I emotionally prepared for the worst. You could say I went into a "My body is ready" mode, only, my mental fortress (if any) was ready.

Vanndril said:
Be patient and keep practicing.
I'll keep practicing. As long as I can post my images on imgur within topics created on the forums. And if not I'll still keep practicing.

plsignore said:
blame us when it's you being stubborn.
I don't blame you. I blame myself for being so careful (too careful) in detail and manner with every form of help that I receive that one tiny speck of something I see wrong with a page in a link for a website for help; and I can't use it.

Like, how is drawing Picasso art upside-down over and over again going to help me?

And how is a deviant art anatomy drawing page filled with too many words and not enough visual examples (hardly any for what I'm trying to make) going to help either?

I don't know whether it's my OCD or what but one thing I see wrong to me with a website or video meant for help and I can't use it, simple as that.

plsignore said:
stop posting your stuff here and get a blog.
And FINALLY: The reason I REFUSE to make a blog on another website for this.

It's just one more username and password that I'll have to make a text file for to remember. And here's why.

I mostly use Firefox, and because of that, I get logged out of everything as soon as all windows for it close. All 8 or more, accounts, most of which are image-boorus like this one and as a result, I need to make an account for as to not see disturbing unwanted stuff.
I have one for Pixiv (with the sole purpose of contacting a user who's art I've seen on E621 for permission.) , one for BOTH Rule34's (Paheal and xxx) ,
one for Xbooru,
one for E621,
one for DeviantArt,
I swear to gosh I had 2 for Furaffinity at one point because I had forgotten the password and username to my old one.
And every time I close all windows to Firefox, or it crashes, thus closing down all windows instantly and automatically, I get logged out of everything.

And by the way, there's nobody who's willing to waste their time for my sake where I live, so sketching people outside, not gonna happen.
waverun said:
And by the way, there's nobody who's willing to waste their time for my sake where I live, so sketching people outside, not gonna happen.
I've told you and retold you, sketching people outside doesn't mean that you need people willing to sit and wait for ya to draw em completely. Literally go to a park or a cafe or some shit and just sketch em fast + loosely to get a vague idea of just the general composition before ya, especially involving peoples' anatomy. Doesn't have to be totally accurate, as this was the shit I made recently:
https://twitter.com/panicatethemoon/status/748390368790614017
Point of the matter is to just go do it and not keep making excuses. One day you try and it doesn't work out? Try again, that happens to me plenty. I just leave the page incomplete and attempt at a new one. Like seriously, I get that you have you're issues with all sorts of things we've suggested, but ya can't just blow this one off so easily...
Idk how you'll respond or if I'll be ignored once again, but really, this might as well be the last time I stay calm and rational about how I really try offeringg this advice to ya...
RedCollarBlackCollar said:
sketching people outside doesn't mean that you need people willing to sit and wait for ya to draw em completely. Literally go to a park or a cafe or some shit and just sketch em fast + loosely to get a vague idea of just the general composition before ya, especially involving peoples' anatomy.
Well alright then. Now I just gotta find a park and find a nice quiet place to sketch.
waverun said:
I don't blame you. I blame myself for being so careful (too careful) in detail and manner with every form of help that I receive that one tiny speck of something I see wrong with a page in a link for a website for help; and I can't use it.
No, that's you being stubborn. I don't give a shit about your OCD, and you need to stop giving a shit, too. Like, just draw, nigga. Draw until your hand bleeds. You need to be filling pages full of shitty sketches to be getting anywhere.

Like, how is drawing Picasso art upside-down over and over again going to help me?
You didn't even fucking try the exercise. You just gave up. You didn't even read the page or it would have explained. You need to get over your symbol drawing. Drawing things upside down helps you do that. If you tried to copy it both upside down and right side up, the upside down one is going to look a lot better.

And FINALLY: The reason I REFUSE to make a blog on another website for this. It's just one more username and password that I'll have to make a text file for to remember. And here's why.
Enough with your bullshit excuses. Make your fucking text file, get a fucking password manager. Go to 4chan's /ic/ where you don't need an account. Or just stay offline and fill some sketchbooks.
waverun said:

Like, how is drawing Picasso art upside-down over and over again going to help me?
Teaches you to draw what's actually there rather than what you think is there by presenting you with an image where you brain can't process what it's meant to be, thus preventing assumptions from getting in the way. I'm pretty sure the page itself vaguely stated as such.

[EDIT: whoops, got beaten to the punch.]

Vanndril said:
I am so, so sad that the Dunning-Kruger effect has been all but disproved. As an MMO gamer, I see what looks like the Dunning-Kruger effect in action every single day, so I was oh-so sure it was valid when I stumbled upon it for the first time.
Ohhh, that's news to me. I see it enough myself for it to feel likely. I've seen it suggested around that a person's actual art skill and their ability to perceive tend to advance at different rates though, so if that at least is true it'd go some way towards explaining it, because I sure do see a lot of artists way better than me who hate their own work. [I guess it comes down to how much a person can see that they could still do better or not, among other things.]
Pastel-Daemon said:
Teaches you to draw what's actually there rather than what you think is there by presenting you with an image where you brain can't process what it's meant to be, thus preventing assumptions from getting in the way. I'm pretty sure the page itself vaguely stated as such.

[EDIT: whoops, got beaten to the punch.]
Thank you for giving me a kind answer. And I'm sorry you got beaten to the punch by someone who is the physical manifestation of brutal harsh honesty.
Doesn't have to be a park; just any place where u can just sketch people quickly.
RedCollarBlackCollar said:
Doesn't have to be a park; just any place where u can just sketch people quickly.
Well I'd prefer a park, so much as to not attract too much attention.
waverun said:
I'll keep practicing. As long as I can post my images on imgur within topics created on the forums. And if not I'll still keep practicing.
Oh yeah, sure. That's fine, actually. We've had new artists use the forums to get art critique and aid by sharing their works in a thread via tumblr/a blog/imgur/etc. before. That's fine.

It's just...when you're practicing and uploading to the gallery for critique, the images are nonetheless held to the quality standards because they're in the gallery. If you're practicing and trying to improve, the gallery's actually a pretty bad place to upload to, because it'll probably just get deleted for quality. And doing that enough begins to frustrate people, as is evident in this comment chain.

I recommend making a thread in our forums for your art and posting links to your works there. That way, you can ask for critique in a discreet way that doesn't result in the image and all the criticism your work receives being deleted all the time. That, and threads like that work well as comparative timelines, with being able to look back at earlier works and say "Woah, I got better. I really used to draw like that?"

Do keep it in one thread, though. :P
Heads are not good. Ignore the comment about the heads being good, they still look kinda ridiculous. Also, where the FUCK is his penis..?
Vanndril said:
I recommend making a thread in our forums for your art and posting links to your works there. That way, you can ask for critique in a discreet way that doesn't result in the image and all the criticism your work receives being deleted all the time. That, and threads like that work well as comparative timelines, with being able to look back at earlier works and say "Woah, I got better. I really used to draw like that?"
Now i think about it, you actually told me to do that as well when i started to draw :p.
It was really emabarassing to read it again xD.

Back to the topic, well the whole thing is wrong everywhere, almost everyone said what was wrong with it so i don't need to say more about it, what i wanted to say is, that you should try to copy a picture irl of someone or just a hentai anime pose and then compare with your drawing. If you understand better how the anatomy work you will see your own flaw.

Last thing, you should look at yourself on a mirror and then look at this work, i don't know if you re a man or a girl but i'm pretty sure that you aren't that thin (i still said something about it in the end) :). Good luck ~