Nice_person
09/28/25 05:58AM
A discussion on the absence of Brave New World (and other books) r34
Good evening.
It is a rarity that I write much of anything on this site, but having recently finished reading Brave New World, I wanted to make clear the vast and untapped potential books of this sort hold. It is a shame how few images are being created with a book in mind, when so many of them utilize hypnosis and or some other type of mind control as medium through Which to tell their story.
Let's take a few examples from Brave New World.

1.) Hypnopædic learning: An entire center within a birthing facility with the sole purpose of conditioning it's members through repeated sayings, many of which are either erotic or encouraging personal pleasure, such as
"Everyone belongs to everyone else,"
"Hug me till you drug me, honey,"
And
"A gram a day keeps the worries away,"
All of which are immediately recited whenever the opportunity arises, and the last of Which refers to my next point,
2.) Soma: A drug that (when ingested either through a pill, a gas, or an injection) puts its users into a trance like state lovingly called a "soma holiday." While in this state, one becomes more inclined to act on their impulses and more receptive to conditioning, as seen when a mob is put to sleep with tranquilizers and drugged on soma gas while listening to a looped recording of how bad of a thing they've done and how they should strive to be better citizens in the future.
3.) Orgy Porgy: an act were a large group of people get together and, in a soma induced frenzy, begin participating in "mass copulation" as it was called.
(While this one is a bit more niche within the hypno community, the potential for a few lewd images is still there.)

As seen in all of these examples, there is some great erotic hypno material to be exploited, and yet not a single result in the search bar. And this doesn't extend to just this book either, as very few r34 images come from any meaningful literature at all. If anyone knows why this is, please let me know, as I really can't come up with an answer.

Also, please discuss in the comments any other books you feel deserve more hypno porn as I can't come up with many others of the top of my head, and if you're a creator, I highly recommend using any of these suggestions as inspiration for your next piece of art.

PS. Brave New World is a wonderful book, especially if you have a hypno kink, which I assume you do if you're on this site. Even without it being erotic it's still worth looking at. Go check it out if you like to read!


mcfantastic
09/28/25 03:24PM
So funny you should say that, I actually have seen one (1) artwork that uses the word 'hypnopedia', one that I happened to upload here (originally manipped by JamesF many many years ago): post #247437
teso
09/28/25 08:12PM
As someone with a hypnokink, and a fan of that era of dystopian novels, I never could view them as kink material because of the 'realism' angle that authoritarian regimes have and would use similar tactics to indoctrinate their populations. Like it's not hypothetical and it's not harmless kink play, there is real world brainwashing and people get hurt and killed cause of this shit. Like not just covid where politicians spread lies about the virus and sowed distrust against doctors and medicine, but now w/ trump lying about tylenol causing autism and immediately his supporters are going after doctors for using it.

I don't fault you if you find kink enjoyment from it, but I cannot go there with that type of material.
Nice_person
09/28/25 08:16PM
That is curious. I knew it was a real word with a variety of spellings, essentially defined as subconscious education, but I had never seen it anywhere other than Brave New World. Thanks for showing me this!

Nice_person
09/28/25 08:27PM
Teso
I'm more aligned with that stance than you might think. I value this book far more as a hypothetical take on a "utopian" society, and I legitimately wasn't aroused just by merely reading it. The only reason I brought this up in the manner I did is because I know there are people, especially on this site, who only care about the erotic side of things. Like I mentioned, this is well worth a read whether you are into erotic hypnosis or not, but perhaps I didn't make it clear that the main appeal of the book is not it's capacity for lewd images to be made of it, but rather a legitimately profound and thought provoking political novel. I still stand by the idea that r34 could and probably should exist of this book and others, but I can completely understand your argument about just how real this sort of thing is, and your desire to stay away from looking at it in an erotic light. Once more, I want to clarify I mean no offense by any of this, I just like talking.
memes
09/28/25 08:38PM
Wow! This sort of thing is right up my alley; I will now describe some hypno literature (yes, literature) examples for any interested parties. Plug: I write lots of hypnosis science fiction at my furaffinity page under the name Shuzzer, and many of my stories include the sort of mass hypnosis for social engineering that we find in Brave New World.

(Note: some of these stories are dark or include non-arousing elements, but I will list them anyways; just because it didn’t get me off doesn’t mean it won’t get you off!)

In Mankind Under The Leash by Thomas Disch, beings of pure energy have taken over the earth and reorganized it for their own aesthetic purposes. Humanity has all been pet-play-ified; everyone is naked and treated like dogs by the energy beings. The beings maintain control with The Leash, an incredibly pleasurable form of psychic unity that makes humans love their servitude.

Robert Heinlein frequently used hypnosis in stories. The Puppet Masters is the ultimate brain slug invasion story. In The Glory Road, the love interest hypnotizes the protagonist, and later he hypnotizes her, both consensually and for plot convenience.

Philip K Dick included a fascinating form of hypnosis in The Ganymede Takeover, in which drugs and sensory deprivation are used to induce a state of enlightenment and receptivity; the ego is temporarily obliterated, and the person is zombied out.

Theodore Sturgeon includes some very terrifying mind control in More Than Human and also in To Marry Medusa.

Blindsight and Echopraxia by Peter Watts both include lots of scary subliminal mind control, with a huge amount of emphasis on the unawareness of the victims. There's also predatory scary vampires in the series, though it's sci-fi, and the vampires are justified in terms of evolutionary biology. TMS is also a well-developed technology that can be used to change someone's mind pretty heavily and without their knowledge. I really don't recommend these books, because I have about a trillion problems with the author's philosophy, but if you want to be subliminally dominated and used by a scary non-human, give em a read!

In Lilith’s Brood, aliens manipulate human physiology to exercise a lot of control, seducing humans really irresistibly. This series is so good and literary that my Protestant mother read it and still found it great. The author truly is brilliant. She’s also got a lot of technological slavecollar stuff in Parable of the Talents, but it’s not really hypno, and so terribly incredibly dark that I think you won’t like it. Her story Patternmaster has a diabolical and sexy villain who can mentally enslave people; again, too realistic to arouse me, but if you love cruel power imbalance and hypno-ntr and stuff, read most of that book, and then invent your own ending.

Various forms of realistic scary mind control are important plot devices in A Fire Upon The Deep and also in A Deepness In The Sky. Repeated memory wipes, mass hypnoslaves making architecture, deeply implanted genetic slavetriggers, etc. I didn’t get aroused by it since it was somewhat realistic and scary and the betrayal stings from a plot perspective, but these books are also just plain excellent.

In Dune, the Bene Gesserit have the power of sexual brainwashing. They can fuck you so good that they just automatically climb to the top of your hierarchy of values.

Babel-17 includes several instances of brainwashing as a plot device; fascinating ideas where a language brainwashes you when you learn it. Sapir-whorf hypnosis, anyone?

In Norstrillia, brainwash tech is extremely advanced and is part of social life. At one point one citizen casually brainwashes another to help keep the peace; this is socially accepted. There is also a telepathic bird Jesus named E'Telekeli with extremely strong hypnotic powers. The protagonist himself has been permanently age-regression brainwashed three or four times.

In Lies, Inc, brainwashing is an established school of psychology, and an accepted part of the political-social metagame. There is one terrifying realistic part where realistic brainwashing is being used to undermine a characters perception of reality; it disturbed me.

The first sixty or so pages, iirc, of Stars in my Pocket Like Grains of Sand, are about a guy voluntarily getting his mind permanently put into a mode of happiness/freedom from pain, but also of obedient slavery. This book has lots of fascinating sexual cultural stuff; it is an anthropological feast with serious attention to taste and flavor, to light and relationships of shadow and architecture, to myriad cultural modes, to gender roles and society and lizardfucking and so on. I was bored at times and didn’t cum to it, but I hope he writes a sequel.

In Odd John, the protagonist is extremely adept at manipulation and later develops techniques of hypnosis. Since he is a Nietzschean posthuman, he does not use these abilities very nicely.

It's very surprising to me that I've never cum to any of these stories.
Nice_person
09/28/25 08:51PM
Memes
This is exactly the kind of thing I was looking for by creating this forum post. So much lost potential that needs an artist to capitalize on. As popular as movies and video games are, books like these need r34 too! Also, I'm going to go check out your page, and I implore others do the same.
hypnowatcher
09/29/25 12:30AM
There is the book "Cinder" and its sequels which is a sci-fi YA play on Cinderella. The bad guys are humans that live on the moon that have developed mind control. There is a great scene in the first book that the main character gets brainwashed by the evil queen to see her as perfect and that she should take over the Earth.

There is some small stuff in the "Red Sister" series and "The Girl and Stars" series which both takes place in a universe where some people have the power to manipulate emotions and memories. Its not a major part of the books but there are a couple of good scenes even when they are subtle.
Educator
09/30/25 03:18AM
So... this is finally where I come in.

I jokingly think of myself as a "hypnosis poser" because the act of hypnosis itself I could mostly take or leave; it's the total mental subjugation that does it for me. I don't even particularly like the idea of suppressing or erasing a person to create that submissive vessel; if it was a robot I could buy from a factory (that was sufficiently human-like) that would do it for me. (Hang on, my point is almost starting.)

So what if you engineered a dystopian society, very much in the vein of Brave New World, where the submissive personality is the only personality your pets/subjects/thralls ever have? Certainly you wouldn't want to neglect hypnosis (both real and fictionalized) as a tool in your toolkit, but you could effectively turn any aspect of society into another arm of your control apparatus. You can stratify society, feed everyone a regular diet of sex and drugs as placation, a little soft sci-fi to cover a few plot holes, and once you have enough people subscribed onto the program you can self-sustain.

You can frame it however you like (secret society? religious cult? pyramid scheme? all of the above?) and you can mold your supplicants however you like (bimbo, Stepford, drone, bipedal pet, all the classics) but the end result is your own pocket paradise. Your subs are happy too... mostly because they can't conceive of any other way of life, but they ARE happy!

I totally everyone who gets the ick from the idea; it's still a dystopia, it's a lot of deliberately dark ideas in a candy coating. But... well, so is mind control in the first place. Imposed control is imposed control; is it more "immoral" to blot out someone's identity/self like chopping down a tree for lumber, or for them to never have a chance at experiencing freedom like growing a little bonsai? Kink has no right answers, but it's a question that has room to be explored.
Tutiorism
09/30/25 08:36AM
Like obviously I wouldn't want to live there but compared to 1984 it doesn't seem that bad.

Even those speaking out against society are moved to an island where they can express their freedom instead of beaten to submission like in 1984

The controller asks the savage if he wants the freedom to experience all of these terrible things and I think almost everyone would choose not too

I would much rather lose my freedom to pleasure instead of pain.
tvattrcerebr
10/02/25 01:41AM
Educator said:
So what if you engineered a dystopian society, very much in the vein of Brave New World, where the submissive personality is the only personality your pets/subjects/thralls ever have?

Isn't that, like, half of all MC content?
Educator
10/02/25 05:08AM
tvattrcerebr said:
Isn't that, like, half of all MC content?


I mean maybe it's the large majority of the parts that you see in MC content, but even then it's at least implied that the person being controlled behaved differently before they were put under. There are definitely people who prize that sense that something has brought about a change, the process of falling under a spell or having a personality overwritten and subsumed. Even if it's just art of someone from a famous fictional setting, people are thinking about how they're normally characterized compared to their controlled state.

I'm talking about the idea that they're literally born and raised to behave that way, so that there the "before" phrase doesn't exist. You would certainly subject them to hypnosis/MC as part of it, but as reinforcement instead of causing some marked shift in self. (I think I'm explaining what I mean okay...)
EdgeOfTheMoon
10/02/25 11:30AM
I think the absence might be explained by most examples I can think of being out of horror books!

Take The Southern Reach series by Jeff VanderMeer which are dripping with hypnosis and the only books I can think of where a character is described as having a hypnosis kink. And it's completely played for horror (Even if Jeff claims Authority is supposed to be a workplace comedy). The 4th book came out last year and one of the creepier parts is the POV character knowing his head has been messed with but not being able to know how much.

Sticking with cosmic horror there's the Fuckroaches and larva in What the Hell Did I Just Read: A Novel of Cosmic Horror by Jason Pargin/David Wong who's ability to mess with perception and memory leads to manipulation and lots of false accusations, people finding out their whole life has been a lie and in the extreme cases. People being eaten alive by things they think are their children and not even being aware of it

Less horror but certainly not happy Book 1 of Bioshifter by Natalie Maher has Hannah spend most of the book being manipulated by a mage with mind control magic making her think she's his friend leading to some serious PTSD about mind control in the later books.
Nice_person
10/03/25 07:15AM
EdgeOfTheMoon said:
I think the absence might be explained by most examples I can think of being out of horror books!

Take The Southern Reach series by Jeff VanderMeer which are dripping with hypnosis and the only books I can think of where a character is described as having a hypnosis kink. And it's completely played for horror (Even if Jeff claims Authority is supposed to be a workplace comedy). The 4th book came out last year and one of the creepier parts is the POV character knowing his head has been messed with but not being able to know how much.

Sticking with cosmic horror there's the Fuckroaches and larva in What the Hell Did I Just Read: A Novel of Cosmic Horror by Jason Pargin/David Wong who's ability to mess with perception and memory leads to manipulation and lots of false accusations, people finding out their whole life has been a lie and in the extreme cases. People being eaten alive by things they think are their children and not even being aware of it

Less horror but certainly not happy Book 1 of Bioshifter by Natalie Maher has Hannah spend most of the book being manipulated by a mage with mind control magic making her think she's his friend leading to some serious PTSD about mind control in the later books.

I can completely understand this. Most instances of mind control or hypnosis in literature are used to unwillingly manipulate and torture innocent people. I can't think of a single protagonist that uses hypnosis powers for only good purposes. The bad guys get the mind control. The only exception to this is when mind control is everywhere, good and bad. It's especially when the protagonist doesn't have such power that they end up suffering. Of the books listed on this forum so far, I think only one of them is seen in a comedic light, that being Puppies of Terra/Mankind Under a Leash. All the others see mind control as a heinous act of forcefully taking someone's will or subtly manipulating people for your own gain. And even then Puppies of Terra was still a pretty dark book all things considered, it just handled it in a more digestible way, kind of like Animal Farm.
memes
10/03/25 05:50PM
I'm gonna push back a bit here and say that in Heinlein, hypnosis is (usually) not presented as dark, but rather as a convenient social technology (except in The Puppet Masters). And then, in Lilith's Brood, it's actually very pleasant and, in my view, positive, though it's more of physiological seduction than mind control.

Also, Star Maker includes some psychic symbiosis which at some points (the fish-crab symbiotes) becomes a sort of intense mutual hypnosis which both is intimate and positive.
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