there's this concept I have in my mind for quite some times but see no one execute :

Rearrangenent of Authority:

the girl puts the authority of the Master over herself. That means the girl could think, act and even live as herself, but whenever there's a decision and the Master has decided 1 way, even when her mind could think of all the logic on why the other way is better, her way automatically lose weight just because her way "does not favor Master's will".
Think of it like a scale and "Master's will" is one of the criteria with absolute weight, the slave girl weights the decision like normal, and the final conclusion comes to her mind is as normal as truth, her logic works and the way that Master has chosen is the best choice.

This has several levels of applications, however.

Level 1:
The slave argue, think logically, still get her own answer, but Master's will still win => the slave can still raise up her idea if Master requested but only as information for Master to decide, she still act with Master's way

Level 2:
Master choose the way, all other ways becomes invalid, the slave will think they are unsuitable to be chosen because they are not Master's way. This level is stronger due to it changes her feeling about her own way, when in comparison with Master's way, her way will become the wrong way in her mind. Not "I only do Master's way because it was forced by him" but "My way is wrong because it was not Master's will"

Level 3:
In every decision in her mind, she would now consider "would this aligned with Master's will?" before even applying logic to it. This has effect on her thoughts, emotion, relation and action regardless. At this stage I dub it as Mind Slave, subjects with mind always think like a slave, always Master-first.

Dangerous levels--------

Level 4:
The slave girl now does not form her own ideas if not specifically ordered to. Her intelligence intact, but she would not use them for her own sake if not ordered, as it's Master's property. At this stage her autonomy starting to lose since she cannot decide on her own, this would affect her daily life if Master doesn't have embedded order for her, something like "Whenever you have to make decisions on your own and without me around, think of the best solution logically and follow them". Even so, since life is full of decision with many different criteria, not always black or white, like one is better for relationship thna other, but the other has more outcome etc., Master's embedded order would most likely cause the slave to act out of character if it's not phrased good enough, she could choose to max-outcome always and ignore other decisions her normal self would consider, like choosing "fully focus on task" over "going out with colleague to deepen relationship with girl A B or C etc."

Level 5:
The girl loses her sense of self, now she think herself as extension of Master, so there's no "slavegirl" no more, no feel, no "for me", no "me" no more, Master's order becomes truth, become her action, there's no "her decision" no more. This is borderline Identity Death, if this stage is kept permanently, it's Identity Death
example of this is DC's Darkseid using Anti-life Equation to turn all humans mind to be his extension

Wow, so silent

Sorry, I'll come with a few ideas and post later. It's a bit late here.

Okay! For my contribution I bring tidings of...

A talisman that upon reading it will alter ones very perception of self, burying their identity in favor of a new one. For example, let's say a powerful witch who thought her will to be indomitable reads the magical inscription of the talisman that is said to turn whom ever reads it aloud into a hapless female knight with a silly name, who doesn't even believe in magic. Well, if her hubris is great enough to make her read the talisman. Well, that's who she is now.

A house haunted by the ghosts of several hypnotists who pass their eternity by luring people into it and using them to host a contest. Thhe contest runs like a game show where people compete against one another for prizes that may or may not be legit. (That's up to you.) The one who can go the longest without being hypnotized is the winner.
However, the real game is being held by the hypnotists. It's treated like a strategy game, where the hypnotists use the people to hypnotize one another. The winner among the ghosts get nothing except maybe new mortal playthings to use for however long they see fit. It's ultimately just to ease the boredom of living as an immortal spirit.

And lastly... A garden the blooms with hypnotic flowers that are meant to catch pesky fairies that like to play tricks and steal things from the garden.

Admittedly, these aren't that great but I thought I'd contribute since I liked your idea so much.

This is a pretty cool idea and I like that it encapsulates a few different types of hypnoprogramming. Level 2 is interesting because the internal dissonance stays latent until something activates it. Like her feelings about a person or issue can be totally invalidated or reversed all of a sudden, indirectly or directly, because of her master's order. But before that she can exist in a kinda tenuous equilibrium where some of her old behaviors/feelings/values haven't yet been overridden despite the incongruity with her new programming. In Level 1 there's a fun dynamic of psychological tension, but Level 3 can be a little too automatic for psychological stakes.


There's a concept related to yours where rather than a Master's will it's an installed concept that infects and perverts the person's every other value to maximally align with the installed value. For instance, you could install "red is the best". Then obviously the subject likes red, but also the subject starts to favor people who evoke feelings of red as the strongest criterion. Instead of closeness, family, friendliness, wearing a red dress would be more important for the subject's affection.

nice to see u guys LillyTank & prettyStupid *heart*

my side is not good for replying right now, will discuss more with u guys when more suitable

OK so my idea on the post here is to share about concepts of hypnosis in general, as in definition of each type of hypnosis, but maybe we could expand onto hypnosis story as well, yah.

@LillyTank



This a cool concept i'd say, it could be a [bold]Identity Override[/bold] kinda concept. Would be better if we have an on/off systen for it otherwise when the change is permanent we would lose the Witch's post-incident perspective. To me this would be something at level 4-5 danger since it risk Identity death.



From what I interpret here, the ghosts take turn possessing the contestants and make them the host to hypnotize the others? could be a good comic concept I think.

@prettystupid



Yeah I admit when reaching level 3 Mind Slave, the slave basically an ideal intelligent slave at borderline identity death or losing her own personality, that is the furthest level we could go that still have "her" in her.



for this, my take is it's a kind of [bold] Perception Manipulation[/quote] combine with [bold]Moral Corruption[/bold]. To me, a perfect slave would definitely need a sustaintial amount of Moral Corruption to at least bend her defense or alter her thought process, aka bend her will. But corruption need to be done very carefully to not lose the real girl behind. Too much corruption and you'd lose your subject for good since corruption most of the time are permanent if it touches the waking mind.

My moral here is "If the slave self is gone for good, who is left to be controlled?".

For Example: a story about the love/obsession of a guy towards a specific girl, big enough to let him think constantly about possessing her everything (mind/love/body). In this kind of story, we cannot let the girl gone for good, that means:
- not creating a mindless puppet of her that obey verbatim since it does not have her mind and love,
- not creating an alter-persona of her with entirely different set of memory and background since it basically not her, so does not have her mind,
- not creating a memory-altered/deleted of her, since that would just be masturbating or playing with dolls in secret, no love here
- also, would need a convincing way for him to gain her love, intense enough so she would accept slavery over her mind willingly

@laststand0810
I tend to go for more light-hearted fantasies. Even when I delve into dark stuff, it's always with a safety line. That is to say that I would never go for identity death. There would always be a way to reverse it even IF it's not the most convenient.

As for the ghost game, I guess possession could make it interesting. I'm usually bored to tears by possession but it could add a layer of intrigue and stakes the idea. Maybe the ghosts could hypnotize one another while possessing a person. With that said, is it weird that I'd want the ghosts to be female now?

@LillyTank
I have a thing for hypnotized hypnotists/controllers, so a hypnotized lady ghost following order of another male hypnotist ghost to possess a female contestant to hypnotize bunch of other contestants while still believing she's the living contestant herself but have an unexplainable urge to hypnotize others.

So confusing now haha

Some ideas I keep coming back to:

1) A hypnotically-implanted streamer persona that gets passed from person to person. Just a bunch of people involuntarily taking turns having the same online persona, with their original personality intact other than budgeting time and money to support their new "hobby". Just a bunch of identity-warping fuckery.

2) A cursed VCR with a bunch of blank tapes. If someone plays a blank tape, people in the room are compelled to act out a cheap porno, which is recorded onto the tape along with an appropriate title. All of the "actors" also have amnesia regarding the events of the tape except while watching it.

3) A girl with a suggestion that makes her take off any clothes that are on top of other clothes, which has a hard-to-avoid trigger. She has adapted her outfits to minimize the annoyance caused by this, but then she's given a new suggestion that further limits what she can wear. Giving subs a dress code that they have to follow is an under-explored power play in my opinion.

4) A bimbo who has been hypnotized into hypnotizing people into accepting her new lifestyle. Kinda like a reality shift but she has to do all the work.

Hi am back~, such a long week =.=

@ThoughtTrain


* now that's a cool story, it would be something like a hivemind or a copy mind from one to another, like a mind virus. I wonder what would happen if they stream snipe each other haha



Somehow I have "The Grudge" vibe here. The scene would be a bunch of people have sex in the middle of the livingroom while the TV shows nothing but static, no one is conscious in that room, kinda eerie haha



Sounds like one of my story about a hypnotized stage hypnotist that got turned into a bimbo but still keep her hypnosis technique in tact, now she's building up her "serving zone" so people would be ok for her to be a bimbo all the time to serve her master