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Hypnospiral
>> #175152
Posted on 2017-05-14 16:39:54
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Hail Hydra?
Contorted
>> #175158
Posted on 2017-05-14 17:23:03
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Me likey. Looks like out of all of them, Maria is enjoying it the most.
master226
>> #175174
Posted on 2017-05-14 19:06:23
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This is something I never understand, Hydra in the MCU obviously has the tech to brainwash people, why not abduct as many female S.H.I.E.L.D agents as possible (maybe even Maria herself) and win in one hot sex slave swoop?
Defcon7
>> #175175
Posted on 2017-05-14 19:43:20
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Hypnospiral said:
Hail Hydra?


don't
jacen1
>> #175187
Posted on 2017-05-14 20:54:44
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master226 said:
This is something I never understand, Hydra in the MCU obviously has the tech to brainwash people, why not abduct as many female S.H.I.E.L.D agents as possible (maybe even Maria herself) and win in one hot sex slave swoop?


Because in Marvel Comics (and arguably the MCU) brainwashing and long term mind control both tend to be unreliable at worst and temporary at best. There are simply to many individuals with mystic/psychic/mind altering abilities that can counter brainwashing for anyone to stay brainwashed for very long.

Now, short term effects can and do work. Just don't expect them to hold for more then a few weeks at best...
master226
>> #175208
Posted on 2017-05-14 22:28:10
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jacen1 said:
Because in Marvel Comics (and arguably the MCU) brainwashing and long term mind control both tend to be unreliable at worst and temporary at best. There are simply to many individuals with mystic/psychic/mind altering abilities that can counter brainwashing for anyone to stay brainwashed for very long.

Now, short term effects can and do work. Just don't expect them to hold for more then a few weeks at best...


Then just rebrainwash them when it begins to wear off. Or go after the psychics and use them to enhance it.
jacen1
>> #175228
Posted on 2017-05-14 23:49:10
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master226 said:
Then just rebrainwash them when it begins to wear off. Or go after the psychics and use them to enhance it.


Allow me to clarify... I can name at least three individuals in the comics, one of whom is officially part of the MCU, that can mass unbrainwash the planet in under a minute. Further, that one brings with him a large cast of relatively minor characters that can pull the same effect by spending a bit more time. Do not underestimate the Sorcerers. They only tolerate Hydra because they do not consider them a true threat. Conquest by brainwash would count as a threat.

The only time Marvel Earth faced near successful conquest by mind control was when Doctor Doom enhanced The Purple Man's mind control power to affect the entire planet. It took less then a month for those who could resist the effect to free the world. The last that I heard, The Purple Man did not survive the experience. (To be fair, Doom did at one point have the option of stopping the heroes and didn't, so it could be argued they only pulled a win because he let them, but we ARE talking about Doctor F_ng Doom here...)
pokemongirl
>> #175298
Posted on 2017-05-15 02:05:11
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What a lovely trio *drools*
Nightington
>> #175343
Posted on 2017-05-15 04:20:57
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The MCU actually does have severe brainwashing capable of sticking in certain cases (Agents of SHIELD has this as a major subplot in Seasons 2 and 3)... However, it's apparently difficult and time-consuming enough to pull off that modern Hydra simply doesn't have the resources to do it to a ridiculous amount of people, saving it for certain 'Gifted' or when getting someone controlled is good for interrogations. (Hydra in the 60s was instead using it exclusively for the Winter Soldier program, a demonstration of their reduced efficiency.)

Why they never thought to get someone as dangerous as, say, Agent Romanoff under their thumb is a good question. It may have something to do with a character's fundamental willpower, where they judged controlling her on the long-term as simply unreliable.
master226
>> #175358
Posted on 2017-05-15 05:50:55
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Nightington said:
The MCU actually does have severe brainwashing capable of sticking in certain cases (Agents of SHIELD has this as a major subplot in Seasons 2 and 3)... However, it's apparently difficult and time-consuming enough to pull off that modern Hydra simply doesn't have the resources to do it to a ridiculous amount of people, saving it for certain 'Gifted' or when getting someone controlled is good for interrogations. (Hydra in the 60s was instead using it exclusively for the Winter Soldier program, a demonstration of their reduced efficiency.)

Why they never thought to get someone as dangerous as, say, Agent Romanoff under their thumb is a good question. It may have something to do with a character's fundamental willpower, where they judged controlling her on the long-term as simply unreliable.


So use one of these on a psychic and have her do the brainwashing. Boom world full of sex slaves
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