Posted on 2013-10-04 03:17:45
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Very lovely~
I would nitpick the text but mmm...those eyes.

Posted on 2013-10-04 03:37:24
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I don't quite get the appeal of the eyes. It seems like all he did was erase the old eyes and replace them with pictures of spirals. Maybe it takes some imagination?

Posted on 2013-10-04 03:44:49
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Well, what type of mind control eyes do you like? :P

It's just an aesthetic preference. Some like spiral eyes, some like whitewash eyes, some like empty eyes... And some have no preference.

Posted on 2013-10-04 04:58:56
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I suppose it is a matter of aesthetics but going down that road one could easily get lost in thought. If someone can be turned on by this than why not anything? And then you remember rule 34 and convolutedly diverse two different minds can be let alone two thousand. Yet somehow they all manage to converge in agree met on a single albeit wide realm of preference; enough so that they can even form a system of quality control rules.

I understand that art is completely arbitrary but does that not mean that you of the administration haven't the right to omit anything! If you "moderators" can unite on singular lines of aesthetic such as body proportions and eye boarders than surely you can understand my disgruntlement in the steadily rising amount of recent image... no... all images in which anime characters are depicted brutality hacked out and sometimes not even replaced....

I'll admit that western styles of art are not always my cup of tea but when I do enjoy them I like seeing them with spiral eyes and sometimes-but rarely-whitewash eyes. However, that is solely for western images. How often are anime images ever depicted with a single character lacking their irises to display hypnotism or mind control. It's a slim ration I can assure you. When I see manips of anime characters that don't have their irises I am utterly removed from what ever the manipper and the artist was trying to convey. Are the irises not a vital part of what defines an anime image? It's one thing to try and bled anime and western in to an art style but to try to blend them into a manipping style might really be pushing it. While an artist can start from scratch and combine two influences into something original; a manipper is already using someone else's work. That means that anything a manipper makes is automatically derivative.

It is only a personal opinion of mine but I say if you're going to be derivative of someone else's tireless efforts at least have the decency to try and make it authentic. Do the original artist justice and put sometime into it. Don't just destroy a part they might have spent over a half an hour on and replace it with some blunt symbol you got from 30 millisecond Google search. I just don't feel as though it's fair that manippers here can post something that took them less than twenty minute to produce and still get more praise from people than those people may ever give the original artist. Some people here don't even think about the original artist they just see a hot babe with spirals stuffed into her sockets and think "Ooo, sexy..." How is that any different from what goes on at the collective?

I know that I'm saying lot of things people might not want to hear so I'll close with this. To all the manippers and aspiring manippers out there; pay respects to your source material. Try to make your manips look more authentic, as they were real pictures. If you're writing for a text manip learn the characters back story and try to come up with something that fits into that. It completely takes me out of the story when I see an image of Tomoe Mami doing paizuri and the texts has her as some lonely housewife named Jennifer (and I haven't even seen the anime yet). Maybe these gripes aren't as big with everyone as they are with me but I think this is a goo way to take the quality of manipping to the next level. So, if you truly take pride in your manips, not as another cheap random bit of fap material to get you off but as a respected art form like photo-editing then please guys, don't be image whores.

No disrespect to any of the manippers, I had just been sitting on this for years and I wanted to get it out. Sorry if I derailed. dannie68 you've got a lot of potential don't give up!

Posted on 2013-10-04 05:21:35
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I don't even understand what your complaint is. It seems to be about 50% disagreement with our quality control policies and 50% dislike of using more than one type of mind control eyes on anime characters.

Edit: After re-reading: it really seems like you're making the case that no one should manip at all.

Posted on 2013-10-04 05:21:41
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Thanks for the encouragement! When I attempt blank eyes, it always ends up looking cheap and nasty, as I can never really get the shading right. I will give it another shot though now that I know people on this site DO give constructive feedback. Thank you all so much for the comments. It means a lot

Posted on 2013-10-04 05:36:09
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Ahh... a typical leadership tactic: Pretend you don't get what someone is talking about so that you can avoid making any statements that you know have already been debunked. I might expect as much. I suppose, if anything, my argument was a message to every manipper out there to increase their personal quality standards. I'm glad I got through to at least one.
Thanks dannie68, I was actually quite worried you might take all that personally but I'm glad said what you did.

I suppose if there's one thing you're right about it's that my comment was very off topic so feel free to delete I going to move it over to the forums.

Posted on 2013-10-04 05:37:31
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Apologies for the double post, but I think what he meant was that I was lazy in replacing the eyes with hypnotic spirals rather than taking the time to draw in original blank eyes. Personally I really like both types and just went for spirals, but I'm willing to at least try something more difficult for this site. The community here has offered me with so much, and admins are also really supportive. I'd love nothing more than to return the love

Posted on 2013-10-04 05:47:00
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But you shouldn't have to draw in original eyes. You wanted to give her spiral eyes, and you did it in a way that is not sloppy (maybe you could've added shading, but that's all I can think of). You even added more effects to the pic to give it a look of magic MC. You did a good job. I guess I just felt like he was belittling the work you did (and really, all manippers). Make manips the way you want to make them. You don't have to do things the way someone else wants you to.

Posted on 2013-10-04 06:12:42
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Thank you very much :)
I might try shading spirals on my next work. I really do appreciate the encouragement as much as the criticism, so thank you so much again