Mindcollector13
08/25/21 10:12PM
Gamescom Thoughts
Gamescom's Day 1 presentation just ended. What did people think?

Me personally...

Cult of the Lamb and the TMNT game look awesome, and I'm hyped for Super Morgana Ball, Sifu, Far Cry 6, and Lost Judgment.

Saints Row (the reboot) looks... bad. Like REALLY bad.

A few games showed potential, but I wanna see more from them, like Midnight Suns, Midnight Fight Express, DokeV, and Park Beyond

Everything else... I kinda didn't care about.

Contorted
08/26/21 01:10AM
Nice that Halo Infinite finally has a date. And just in time on my end! Finally upgraded my GPU, so I'll be ready for that bad boy.
ghost13
08/26/21 01:30AM
I'm sad that Lost Judgement might be the last game in the Judgement series...

Why? Because Sega has been having disputes with Johnny's & Associates, the Agency Takuya Kimura, the model and voice actor for Yagami, apparently over wanting to release the game on Steam...
Mindcollector13
08/26/21 03:11AM
Contorted said:
Nice that Halo Infinite finally has a date. And just in time on my end! Finally upgraded my GPU, so I'll be ready for that bad boy.


Yeah. I haven't played Halo since 4. It's just not for me anymore. Honestly; multiplayer games in general aren't.

ghost13 said:
I'm sad that Lost Judgement might be the last game in the Judgement series...

Why? Because Sega has been having disputes with Johnny's & Associates, the Agency Takuya Kimura, the model and voice actor for Yagami, apparently over wanting to release the game on Steam...


As someone who has just played through the Yakuza games, I noticed that Sega seems to have this problem a lot.

The Kiryu Saga has a few major characters who just... Stop being in the games with little to no explanation. And from what I understand it all boils down to "Sega got pissy with the VA, so rather than re-cast for the character, that character simply ceases to exist in the world"

Sucks that that's going to be the case with a protagonist. Can't imagine having to just end a game series because you refuse to re-cast your lead.
Contorted
08/26/21 03:26AM
Mindcollector13 said:
Yeah. I haven't played Halo since 4. It's just not for me anymore. Honestly; multiplayer games in general aren't.


Really? 4 was my favorite of the series thus far for the oddly beautiful love story it has between Chief and Cortana. <<www.escapistmagazine.com/...g-to-master-chiefs-story/|There was a great article from The Escapist>> last year that articulated my thoughts so perfectly as to why it was my favorite. Plus the score, while not as iconic as Marty's work in the previous installments, still had a real kick to laying down the emotional and exciting moments.
Mindcollector13
08/26/21 03:35AM
Contorted said:
Really? 4 was my favorite of the series thus far for the oddly beautiful love story it has between Chief and Cortana. <<www.escapistmagazine.com/...g-to-master-chiefs-story/|There was a great article from The Escapist>> last year that articulated my thoughts so perfectly as to why it was my favorite. Plus the score, while not as iconic as Marty's work in the previous installments, still had a real kick to laying down the emotional and exciting moments.


I think my general issues are...

1. I tend to dislike when a series meets a good conclusion, but keeps going. I'm fine if you continue IN UNIVERSE, but when you keep the old characters in a whole new adventure it feels... wrong.

For example, I'm fine with games like GTA, where each game can be played separately, and exists as it's own entity. I'm also fine with things like Mass Effect: Andromeda, since we are no longer following Shepard.

The issue is that Halo 3 reached a conclusion of the war. 4 pulled in this whole mess of new stuff, but with Chief still in the driver's seat. It just felt so wrong to me. And honestly, after watching a playthrough of 5's campaign... the story kind of bothers me generally.

2. I just can't play multiplayer games anymore. Co-op is a different story, but playing online multiplayer stresses me out. People take it WAY too seriously. If I wanted to get screeched at, I'd call my mom. I play video games to relax, and having people shriek into my ears like fucking banshees because "YOU TOOK MY ENERGY SWOOOOORD!" is not relaxing to me.

3. I also don't really like the way in which Halo multiplayer evolved. I sort of had this issue in Reach, but things like Armor Lock, Jetpack, Hologram, etc always kinda rubbed me the wrong way.

What I liked in 1-3 was how everyone was put on a level playing field, and the combat was made more savage because it was all about making do with limited resources. You couldn't just spawn in with camo or plasma grenades (outside of custom game types). You had to find those things, and use them to your advantage from where you found them. Just being able to spawn with them, use them repeatedly, etc removed the fun for me. I have similar issues with things like Overwatch, where your character is extremely limited, and to change things up you basically need to switch characters instead of just modifying tactics on the fly by grabbing a different weapon.
Cromsis
08/26/21 04:11AM
Mindcollector13 said:
Gamescom's Day 1 presentation just ended. What did people think?

Me personally...

Cult of the Lamb and the TMNT game look awesome, and I'm hyped for Super Morgana Ball, Sifu, Far Cry 6, and Lost Judgment.

Saints Row (the reboot) looks... bad. Like REALLY bad.

A few games showed potential, but I wanna see more from them, like Midnight Suns, Midnight Fight Express, DokeV, and Park Beyond

Everything else... I kinda didn't care about.




Honestly Saints Row Reboot will do great in the 18+ industry but that's it.

I'm hyped for Back 4 Blood. But I want to know more on Valve's " Citadel " a game being worked on by Valve with upcoming leaks being shown. If it's a new Half-Life or Portal game I'll be hyped.

As for GTA Expanded and Enhanced. If the strippers don't have actual erect nipples instead of pixels I'm gonna get angry.
Pinkanator
08/26/21 09:05AM
Why the fuck are Iron Man and Wolverine in the Midnight Suns, the SPOOKY team? It'd be like doing Justice League Dark but having Batman in i-wait...

ASH CRIMSON BAYBEEEE, ROLLBACK BAYYYBEEEEE, COMIN BACK FROM RETCON LAND AND THERE AIN'T NOTHIN YOU CAN DO ABOUT IIIIIIT

DekoV lost me when it turned out to be an MMO lol.

Shredder's Revenge looks amazing, can't wait, announce Casey Jones already.

Hopefully Day 2 has more good stuff, we get 2 new Nick All Star Brawl characters today, so hopefully they're cool.
DouDile
08/26/21 09:18AM
Just interested in KOF XV, everything is meh. :^))))))))))))
TheMadPrince
08/26/21 12:52PM
Mindcollector13 said:
Saints Row (the reboot) looks... bad. Like REALLY bad.


Does it? I mean, I've only played SR3 so I'm not hugely invested in the franchise, but the trailer seemed perfectly serviceable to me. Not, like, amazing, but fine. [spoiler=Political commentary]Kinda looks like it's getting review-bombed (before it's even released, no less) by some right-wing influencers siccing their fans on it, angry that there's what they perceive to be "lesbians with man-hating hair" (which is a comment I actually saw - to my knowledge, hair has not yet been discovered to be able to hate men) and "woke/millenial/twitter/starbucks/tiktok humor/vibe" (of which the sole common defining point seems to be that it features young women and men, otherwise I haven't really managed to figure out what checks those boxes for anyone).

Like they review-bombed TLOU2 for having a lesbian kissing scene in the trailer. I swear, these people are living in the Middle Ages. Would be funny if it wasn't actively harmful to minorities.[/spoiler]

EDIT: I realize in retrospect that I sort of brought up some controversially political aspects that no one had really mentioned here, so, even if I personally think these things should be talked about when they happen, in the interest of not having this thread devolve into some flame war, I spoilered it.
Sir_Lurksalaot
08/26/21 02:31PM
Yeah, I have a hard time getting excited for anything in the gaming space rn because of both the people behind the screen and in front of it.
edcellwarrior
08/26/21 02:48PM
Mindcollector13 said:
Yeah. I haven't played Halo since 4. It's just not for me anymore. Honestly; multiplayer games in general aren't.

As someone who has just played through the Yakuza games, I noticed that Sega seems to have this problem a lot.

The Kiryu Saga has a few major characters who just... Stop being in the games with little to no explanation. And from what I understand it all boils down to "Sega got pissy with the VA, so rather than re-cast for the character, that character simply ceases to exist in the world"

Sucks that that's going to be the case with a protagonist. Can't imagine having to just end a game series because you refuse to re-cast your lead.


This one isn't on Sega, Johnny's & Associates doesn't want any game with their actors released on PC because they're afraid modding will put their clients in "undesirable situations" or some garbage like that.

A recast is possible, but since Takuya Kimura is the face of the series, it would look pretty weird.
Mindcollector13
08/26/21 04:28PM
TheMadPrince said:
Does it? I mean, I've only played SR3 so I'm not hugely invested in the franchise, but the trailer seemed perfectly serviceable to me. Not, like, amazing, but fine. [spoiler=Political commentary]Kinda looks like it's getting review-bombed (before it's even released, no less) by some right-wing influencers siccing their fans on it, angry that there's what they perceive to be "lesbians with man-hating hair" (which is a comment I actually saw - to my knowledge, hair has not yet been discovered to be able to hate men) and "woke/millenial/twitter/starbucks/tiktok humor/vibe" (of which the sole common defining point seems to be that it features young women and men, otherwise I haven't really managed to figure out what checks those boxes for anyone).

Like they review-bombed TLOU2 for having a lesbian kissing scene in the trailer. I swear, these people are living in the Middle Ages. Would be funny if it wasn't actively harmful to minorities.[/spoiler]

EDIT: I realize in retrospect that I sort of brought up some controversially political aspects that no one had really mentioned here, so, even if I personally think these things should be talked about when they happen, in the interest of not having this thread devolve into some flame war, I spoilered it.


You know, I was talking with a few people last night and realized that maybe I don't actually hate this game conceptually as much as I thought.

My initial issue, I think, is that I had an expectation after Volition teased a "reboot" that we'd basically be getting "Saints Row ; 2022 edition". Sort of like the Tomb Raider reboots where it's still all Lara Croft, doing Lara Croft things, but with better graphics and story.

AKA: a "soft" reboot.

What we're getting is a "hard" reboot which, I think, was just initially jarring.

But the more I look at it.... Well; let's just say I didn't like Saints 3 and 4 so much. I started with 1 and 2 and the series pulled a massive U turn at 3, which I greatly disliked.

Graphics aside, it feels to me like a sort of weird blend of 1&2, with 3&4. It's going back to being a majority gang warfare game, but with a bit more wackiness. Trying to bridge the gap between the first and last half of the original series.

As for your other point... Unfortunately those are the times we live in. I don't consider things like that to be "legitimate complaints".
TheMadPrince
08/26/21 08:50PM
Mindcollector13 said:
You know, I was talking with a few people last night and realized that maybe I don't actually hate this game conceptually as much as I thought.

My initial issue, I think, is that I had an expectation after Volition teased a "reboot" that we'd basically be getting "Saints Row ; 2022 edition". Sort of like the Tomb Raider reboots where it's still all Lara Croft, doing Lara Croft things, but with better graphics and story.

AKA: a "soft" reboot.

What we're getting is a "hard" reboot which, I think, was just initially jarring.

But the more I look at it.... Well; let's just say I didn't like Saints 3 and 4 so much. I started with 1 and 2 and the series pulled a massive U turn at 3, which I greatly disliked.

Graphics aside, it feels to me like a sort of weird blend of 1&2, with 3&4. It's going back to being a majority gang warfare game, but with a bit more wackiness. Trying to bridge the gap between the first and last half of the original series.

As for your other point... Unfortunately those are the times we live in. I don't consider things like that to be "legitimate complaints".


That's fair. As I said, I haven't played SR1&2, which, if I'm understanding correctly, seem to be prior to the real whacky shift they started going for in 3. Never having had any standards within the series to compare 3 to, I just basically saw it as "GTA on crack". I enjoyed the experience, though I can understand that others were put off if the first few did things differently.

Plus, Saints Row 3 has (sadly, only with DLC) mind-controlling squids you can throw at sexy gang members via rocket launcher, which... I don't think anyone could ever convince me is not the best part of Saints Row.
If the octopus/squid launcher makes a return in this one it'll be GOTY automatically for me.
Mindcollector13
08/27/21 02:05AM
Indie Game show was actually pretty solid. Lots of titles I'm looking forward to, like Serial Cleaners, Loopmancer, and Arcadian Atlas

And the Future Game Show had Project Relic and Soulstice, which both looked awesome, and a game called Medieval Dynasty which looks like it'll be fun, despite also somehow looking boring?
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