Numbuh214
07/25/23 09:44AM
The Ethics of Artificial Intelligence
Okay, so I haven't typically seen reason to ever be a presence in these forums... or be much of a presence here, outside of consuming these images. However, I am beside myself when I see the hypocrisy of images made with the help of Kisekae being banned on the grounds of its content being "samey", while AI-generated images run rampant. Are those somehow not "samey" enough because the AI can mimic dynamic angles with its regurgitations?

I don't expect anything to be done by my pointing this out; however, if any moderators or administrators are reading this... ideally, I'd prefer the situation being completely reversed; however, I would be fine with Kisekae remaining banned, if AI art was similarly banned. This is because even if you agree with the rhetorical question I posed about AI art only not looking "samey" because it can render more than "straight-on", and even if you disregard the argument that Kisekae at least takes more effort to get the doll looking like the character --especially if the character has a complex design or a non-standard face! -- at least that effort to make the doll look accurate is entirely HUMAN.

With AI, all the HUMAN does is type a premise into a website and wait as an algorithm churns out something serviceable from remixing its "training data" to fit the prompt; and the kicker about that "training data"? IT IS STOLEN ART. Not only do these coders very likely use imageboards full of artists' leaked premium content to train their programs, but even if they didn't: it is a violation of artist consent that could lead to artists losing the commissions that they need to survive, because the potential commissioner is satisfied with what the algorithm spat out; and as we can clearly see from scrolling through the pages of the "AI_art" tag, what the algorithm spits out is getting imperceptibly better -- and less distinguishable from human attempts -- by the DAY.

Thanks for reading, and I hope this community starts agreeing with me; otherwise, you might just end up needing to update your artist blacklist.
jigiyak
07/25/23 02:02PM
I haven't read the post but judging from ALL of the other times someone ever tried to ask those same questions i can already predict that is not gonna end well and it is best to lock this thread as soon as humanly possible so we DO NOT open this pandora box A THIRD TIME
jigiyak
07/25/23 02:39PM
Numbuh214 said:

Thanks for reading, and I hope this community starts agreeing with me; otherwise, you might just end up needing to update your artist blacklist.


look i have already stated my position on this subject many times before and have gotten into several fights because of it so i am going to summarize 10 posts worth into one simple word, ARRIVEDERCI
Detour
07/25/23 03:37PM
We've had this conversation before, we don't have any plans at the moment to ban or otherwise restrict AI generated artwork other than being stricter with regards to quality/resolution.
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