LilSpike
02/03/16 08:38AM
Having translation problems with Saimin Yuugi and ITH
So I finally got Saimin Yuugi to work (yay)! And I got ITH to hook into Translation Aggregator and I'm starting to get a translation. The problem is that Interactive Text Hooker (ITH) is not grabbing all of the text, and it's screwing up the translations. I was wondering if anyone else came across this problem.

I know, I shouldn't come asking for IT help here, but you guys are the most likely and able to help me.
Cradily
02/03/16 08:59AM
Quoting HME on this -


Saimin Yuughi does not work with ITH, you need to use agth for it instead.
LilSpike
02/03/16 09:10AM
Hey thanks for the help! I switched to AGTH, and that's working better.... But it's still dropping tons of characters. It seems like it's dropping the "less dense" characters... I'm don't really know anything about japanesse, but there's multiple ways of writing right? Is the game just mixing them up, and the translator not catching some?
Cradily
02/03/16 09:22AM
After re-reading my past mails, I think you are having the same problem I was. So I'll just post the mails here -


HME -

That being said, Saimin Yuughi does not work with ITH, you need to use agth for it instead.

Edit your shortcut of Saimin Yuughi (rightclick -> Properties) and enter the following line into the target field:

E:\agth\agth.exe /c /x /HAN-10@00492607 /KS1 "E:\Eroge\Staffing\催眠遊戯\催眠遊戯.exe"

With E:\agth being the directory of AGTH and E:\Eroge\Staffing\催眠遊戯\ being the directory for Saimin Yuughi.


Me -

It I try to start the game without ' /c /x /HAN-10@00492607 /KS1 ' on the target line it works, but then I run into the same problem as I did with ITH (missing hiragana).


Missing hiragana = essentially what you were saying by 'dropping the less dense characters'

HME -

It's a standard memory violation error.

You cannot run it without the /c /x /HAN-10@00492607 /KS1 - only if you run it with that line it will give you the selection of the "User hook" once text appears on the screen that has the correct japanese signs in it. My guess is, since the command did not work correctly, it hooks into the same string that ITH found. I did a quick test and yeah, without that line it looks the same for me.

Could be a couple of things like ...

- Double check if you have it correctly in your target window. It looks like it somehow hooks to the wrong
- Make sure you start it with admin rights
- Make sure both format and Regional schemata in your Windows settings are set to japanese

I am running Windows 7 64bit which had the least problem with Eroge because almost anyone runs it. I dunno how it is on Win 8.

If nothing helps get back to ITH - attach it to the saimin yuughi exe file and get some text rolling on the screen. In the ITH window there's a long white open space below all the buttons like "Process" "Thread" etc.

You can enter stuff there. Like ... the HAN code I gave you above (without the options). So entering /HAN-10@00492607 should get you a response in the Consoleoutput of ITH like:

3628: UserHook1
3628: Additional hook inserted.
3628: Insert address 0x00492607.

You can now select the Userhook0 and it should work fine. Bad thing is you have to do it manually every time you start up the game - but it works. I tested it on my PC and it works fine - if you get another memory error then I do not know what prevents it - but try it out first.


Me -

After testing out some more it seems to be the /x that is the problem. /c /HAN-10@00492607 /KS1 works fine and there's no missing hiragana/shows in TA too.




Hopefully that helps you. Also hope HME doesn't mind me pasting their mail out =x
LilSpike
02/03/16 09:58AM
Alright! Worked exactly as said! This should be stickied somewhere.
LilSpike
02/03/16 10:02AM
So is that /H flag the mythical H-code?
Vanndril
02/04/16 06:12AM
LilSpike said:
So is that /H flag the mythical H-code?


That it is.
HypnoMangaEditor
02/09/16 09:13PM
Erh, this is pretty outdated, but it does still work. For future reference - use Chiitrans Lite for everything. It works pretty much flawlessly with any Eroge and is easier to use and doesn't need a code or any special configuration. AGTH, ITH and Translation Aggregator are no longer maintained and can break with newer games.
Underscore
07/12/17 12:37PM
Aaand fast forward a year and just dropping here (if anyone ever comes across this) that the windows 10 creators update breaks Chiitrans making it unable to actually hook the text from any VN, the hook list will just be empty. A solution that works great is just setting up a Windows 7 based VM and running everything out from there. Both Oracle's Virtualbox and VMware should have free versions that are quiet easy to operate, however you do need a way to install Windows 7 like a CD or a bootable media.
MemeJesus
11/26/17 11:31PM
Hey, I just made an account for this. I want to be able to play Saimin Yuugi, and I can get the game to load using Locale Emulator. But, I can only speak English so I need to translate it. I tried using both AGTH and Chiitrans Lite but I definitely don't know what I am doing. I am running Windows 10, which someone said causes problems? What do I do?
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