Wienerman
01/06/17 07:21PM
Drawing Tips for an Amateur
Hello. I'm aspiring to become better at drawing, but for that I need some advice. Eventually I want to create my own manga, but right now I'm far from it. I'm hoping to get some tips on what kind of pencil to use when drawing something. Like, whenever I've seen one of Myuk's hand-drawn images, I've always wondered what pencil he used to draw the eyebrows and eye edges and whatnot. Below are some drawings that I've made to give you some idea of where my skill level is. The first four pictures are from a Sekirei comic I drew in my third year of college (about two years ago) for a Graphic Novels class. The reason there's only four of them is because I'm showing you the best ones out of the whole graphic novel.

Karasuba and Yume:
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sta.sh/0114stjprl8u

Karasuba, Benitsubasa and Haihane in the shower:
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Karasuba and Natsuo (hands-down my best drawing of Karasuba):
sta.sh/01kb752npc7v

The rest of these are drawings for original Yu-Gi-Oh! cards I thought would be cool.

Superstarburst:
sta.sh/022qfdtb1peh

Epic Iron:
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Heartbreaker (named after the Led Zeppelin song):
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The Fisher King (as an actual fish):
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All of these were drawn using only an HB pencil. What I need advice for is not anatomy but rather a general idea of what pencils are used for what. For reference, I have a Faber-Castell set. What I'm wondering is, for something like one of Myuk's drawings, would one use a 4B to draw the eyebrows and eye edges and whatnot? That is generally where I need advice. And of course, any other advice one can give is certainly welcome. Thank you all in advance for both your time and for whatever help you can provide.
Pastel-Daemon
01/06/17 07:23PM
You don't need the url tags, the site is set up to recognise links and'll handle them by itself. owo/

EDIT: Also now that I've followed the links, some other stuff.
I can't say much about traditional things because I moved to almost solely working digitally a while back now, but if you're gonna be paying attention to the tools you're using, bear in mind the quality of the paper you use will make a difference too.

I can also see quite a few signs of erasing in the images you linked so I guess I'd suggest trying to start off lighter til you're definitely satisfied with the lines. If you can swing it, lightboxes are pretty great for producing images that aren't marred by misplaced lines or wear on the paper from erasing etc. [Fairly sure there are cheap ways to make your own, too.]

As for what pencils to use for what, www.quora.com/What-is-the...-pencils-such-as-1h-to-9b this looks like good advice to me but I'd wait to see if more traditionally inclined artists agree or not.
Wienerman
01/06/17 07:29PM
Pastel-Daemon said:
You don't need the url tags, the site is set up to recognise links and'll handle them by itself. owo/




Fixed now. Thank you for your help on that!

EDIT: Thank you more for your advice!
RedCollarBlackCollar
01/06/17 08:30PM
As much as you say how anatomy's not something you really need that much advice on, I highly suggest looking into it further. That, or at least object drawing. I just feel like you're trying to draw these characters however they're presented, and not as actual people/objects in a space. Bit of a weird way to put it ik, but it is important enough to keep in mind.

Other than that, I wouldn't suggest using strictly pencils if you want to create your own "manga"/graphic novel. Lotta the more professional stuff out there is inked, be it <<hypnohub.net/post/show/38596|traditionally>> or <<hypnohub.net/post/show/43553|digitally>>, as the lines stand out far better. Pencils in my experience are more used for trying to render something, or just simply be the underbelly for what you'll redraw over it.
akaece
01/07/17 02:22AM
What I need advice for is not anatomy


hnnnnng
Wienerman
01/08/17 06:12AM
Just want to say thank you to all who've offered advice.
Whisper
01/08/17 08:14AM
Wienerman said:
Just want to say thank you to all who've offered advice.


If you want you can check Myuk's World Of Hypno series, it started out as pen and paper.
Might pick up a thing or two and the style evolved visibly over the course of the series.
Wienerman
01/09/17 02:28AM
Whisper said:
If you want you can check Myuk's World Of Hypno series, it started out as pen and paper.
Might pick up a thing or two and the style evolved visibly over the course of the series.



The thing is, I have no idea of what Myuk's process was for drawing that series. Darker pencils first, then lighter ones? I have no idea. That's what I want to know.
RedCollarBlackCollar
01/09/17 02:49AM
Wienerman said:
The thing is, I have no idea of what Myuk's process was for drawing that series. Darker pencils first, then lighter ones? I have no idea. That's what I want to know.


You gotta stop thinking that just pencils + process are what you need to improve. Your skills and understanding alone (of anatomy + object drawing especially) are what ya need to focus on, regardless of pencil, pen, digital, etc.
plsignore
01/09/17 03:44AM
RedCollarBlackCollar said:
You gotta stop thinking that just pencils + process are what you need to improve. Your skills and understanding alone (of anatomy + object drawing especially) are what ya need to focus on, regardless of pencil, pen, digital, etc.


This. You're putting the carriage before the horse here. Technique is less important than the fundamentals.

www.alexhays.com/loomis/
RedCollarBlackCollar
01/09/17 03:49AM
plsignore said:
This. You're putting the carriage before the horse here. Technique is less important than the fundamentals.

www.alexhays.com/loomis/


Thx for the link in general.
And speaking of which, it's about time I got to giving some feedback people asked for while back... >_____<
Wienerman
01/10/17 12:15AM
Just wanted to say thank you for the link, plsignore. And RedCollarBlackCollar, your advice is appreciated too. Thank you so much for taking the time to give your advice.
geekgirl8
01/10/17 12:35AM
I actually own Figure Drawing For All It's Worth, and it's a godsend, honestly.
LillyTank
01/10/17 04:02AM
geekgirl8 said:
I actually own Figure Drawing For All It's Worth, and it's a godsend, honestly.


What is this "Figure Drawing" you speak of?
Yuu-chan
01/10/17 04:25AM
LillyTank said:
What is this "Figure Drawing" you speak of?


She means the book Figure Drawing for All It's Worth by Andrew Loomis.
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