impossiblearchitect
01/10/18 08:15PM
Creative and Overcomplicated Hypnosis
Ever seen those doujin that feel like an engineer's blueprints - except someone clearly designed them with one hand between their legs? Or seen one of those really elaborate contraptions ultimately designed to make some poor sub torment themselves/each other, to the point where you wonder how much that fancy sex toy must have cost to put together?

Like That, But Hypnosis. Creative applications of triggers. Rube Goldberg Hypno machines. Really weird mind control magic, elaborate self-hypnosis traps, cunning predicaments; inventive uses of mind control, beyond just "being my slave." -- To a great degree, my interest in consensual hypnosis actually started from this, because "I want to be mind controlled" adds layers and depth to even a short plot.

I'll start, naturally, as the OP.

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There's a really amusing WN (entirely in Japanese, sadly) on syosetu called "Special Investigation Seraphic Knights - I'm the King of Incubi, but all my childhood friends are Magical Girls?!" -- It, uh, goes pretty much as you'd expect, but it can get really inventive at times. For example: the Seraphic Knights use a spell that, I kid you not, tattoos a functional twelve-tone phone keypad onto a woman's breast. Entering a command into the "keypad" engraves it onto the woman's soul, a permanent order that can't be lifted and must be followed for the rest of the woman's life. Originally they use it to ensure loyalty and make their magic more powerful (I can do it! -> You actually can do it), but (of course) someone figures out the key-phrase to make the keypad visible and abuses it to sexy effect.

I really like it because - aside from the sheer wtf factor of "breast keyboard" - there's the humiliation factor of "indelibly writing an order onto your soul by groping and squeezing your breasts."
ghost13
01/12/18 06:09AM
For me, I like the idea of looping triggers, with one trigger activating the next, all while reinforcing previous triggers and conditioning the subject further with each loop.

It can be anything from a simple loop like, "the more you obey, the better you'll feel" and "the better you feel, the more you'll obey", or something far more complex:

1) Whenever you feel aroused, you will feel the urge to flash for breasts
2) Whenever you feel the urge to flashing your breasts, you will think of me
3) Whenever you think of me, you will want to see me
4) Whenever you see me, you will desire to obey
5) Whenever you desire to obey, you will think about being my slave
5) Whenever you think about being my slave, you will feel aroused

For me, the excitement comes form the idea of someone, no matter how resistant, slowly and gradually convincing their self to become mine.
impossiblearchitect
01/12/18 11:53PM
Ooh, yes. An old hentai favorite closes the loop implicitly:

1) Whenever you cum, you lose more of yourself.
2) Whenever you cum, you become more sensitive.

So naturally, the more you cum, the more you're going to cum, and the faster you break...
darsh
01/13/18 01:26AM
impossiblearchitect said:

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There's a really amusing WN (entirely in Japanese, sadly) on syosetu called "Special Investigation Seraphic Knights - I'm the King of Incubi, but all my childhood friends are Magical Girls?!" -- It, uh, goes pretty much as you'd expect, but it can get really inventive at times. For example: the Seraphic Knights use a spell that, I kid you not, tattoos a functional twelve-tone phone keypad onto a woman's breast. Entering a command into the "keypad" engraves it onto the woman's soul, a permanent order that can't be lifted and must be followed for the rest of the woman's life. Originally they use it to ensure loyalty and make their magic more powerful (I can do it! -> You actually can do it), but (of course) someone figures out the key-phrase to make the keypad visible and abuses it to sexy effect.

I really like it because - aside from the sheer wtf factor of "breast keyboard" - there's the humiliation factor of "indelibly writing an order onto your soul by groping and squeezing your breasts."


So... you wouldn't happen to have a link to this, would you? I'm asking for research purposes, of course.
impossiblearchitect
01/14/18 07:35AM
darsh said:
So... you wouldn't happen to have a link to this, would you? I'm asking for research purposes, of course.


Hey, man, if you make something out of it that'd be amazing :V.

novel18.syosetu.com/n8852dg/32/

Here's the link to one of the relevant chapters - cut off the 32/ for the chapter index. It's in Japanese, naturally, but if you can read it - or are willing to copy-paste it into Google Translate - go for it!

(I actually have a greasemonkey script that automatically copies one page at a time to a private server but removes their R18 check, so I can run Google Translate's page translation function on it. But if I were going to open it up for public use I'd have to figure out how to update the server to handle multiple users, it's not really designed for that atm.)
averageguy17
01/14/18 08:02AM
Yes, I love this concept! One of my favourite ideas is to create a sort-or Rube Goldberg-like sequence involving hypnosis. Like having someone do something simple like turning off a light switch, but making them undergo a bunch of minor tasks before completing the initial task.
darsh
01/14/18 05:58PM
impossiblearchitect said:
Hey, man, if you make something out of it that'd be amazing :V.

novel18.syosetu.com/n8852dg/32/

Here's the link to one of the relevant chapters - cut off the 32/ for the chapter index. It's in Japanese, naturally, but if you can read it - or are willing to copy-paste it into Google Translate - go for it!



Thanks! No mechanical assistance necessary in my case, but I have to say, that's a cool way around the r18 check. You sir, have done me a solid. If there are any pics on the hub you'd like translated, let me know. :-)
impossiblearchitect
01/15/18 08:40PM
averageguy17 said:
Yes, I love this concept! One of my favourite ideas is to create a sort-or Rube Goldberg-like sequence involving hypnosis. Like having someone do something simple like turning off a light switch, but making them undergo a bunch of minor tasks before completing the initial task.


Rube Goldberg hypnosis is great, yeah. The "turning the sub into a living machine" D/S dynamic is just icing on the cake :P.
darsh said:
Thanks! No mechanical assistance necessary in my case, but I have to say, that's a cool way around the r18 check. You sir, have done me a solid. If there are any pics on the hub you'd like translated, let me know. :-)


Ooh, cool. My Japanese isn't quite there yet - I can make a decent guess at most short doujin pages but a full story is beyond me for now.

... Hey, actually, would you mind helping me proofread my translation *into* Japanese? I'm thinking about putting one of my pictures on Pixiv in Japanese, for practice/the lolz. That work for you?
darsh
01/15/18 10:05PM
impossiblearchitect said:
... Hey, actually, would you mind helping me proofread my translation *into* Japanese? I'm thinking about putting one of my pictures on Pixiv in Japanese, for practice/the lolz. That work for you?


Be glad to, although my translations into Japanese are a bit shakier than into English.
impossiblearchitect
01/17/18 08:24AM
darsh said:
Be glad to, although my translations into Japanese are a bit shakier than into English.

Alright! Moving to PMs for that.

Meanwhile, tax for taking up the thread:

novel18.syosetu.com/n9994ea/

The Cursed Ring features a cursed ring that locks you in a bathroom stall, doomed to die unless you put it on - and doomed to die if you do put it on. Sound familiar? Yeah well as you might guess it takes a right turn straight into hentai.

The ring gives you orders, but has no real enforcement power beyond the threat of eventual death at first. As you break orders, the next orders get nastier as punishment. If you really are a daredevil and break too many, the ring gains enough power to take control of your movements and force you to obey.

Thing is, the orders start off reasonable like "go commando for a day" or "masturbate in the school bathroom," but quickly escalate into "wear a magic vibrator for the day" and "pierce yourself with this vibrating clit ring, in the bathroom" if you don't obey or miss a day for whatever reason. By the end of the story, she's been forced into enough vibrators that she can't stop cumming - meaning she can no longer follow any further commands, *meaning the ring takes total control of her life.*

So basically, it turns into a hypnosis story. "Act perfectly normal, even as you're cumming uncontrollably just from walking around school."
impossiblearchitect
02/01/18 11:12PM
Have another excellent one, for the two people actually reading this:

Magical Girl Innocent Lily, relevant chapter here: novel18.syosetu.com/n6637cx/10/

Lily's school gets taken over by an incubus/lust demon, who proceeds to hypnotize everyone in the school. She got defeated in an earlier chapter (I think), so the incubus knows she's a magical girl and proceeds to give her special treatment:

a) Classic "everything feels good" sensitivity enhancement.

b) Forced transformation into a really slutty version of their school uniform. Breasts are just about completely exposed, the skirt's more like a belt than a skirt, the works. (Forced magical girl transformation is a cool idea I want to see more of, on a side note.)

c) Here's where it gets interesting. Forced exhibitionism - the more she gets embarrassed, the better she feels. With the "uniform" she's wearing, that quickly adds up to "really damn horny" - which gets her wet, which everyone can see, which makes her more embarrassed...

d) Can't use any words to describe herself other than the absolute sluttiest she can think of. When someone asks her how she's doing later in the day, she replies "My slutty cunt is dripping wet, I want you to shove your cock into me~" breathlessly. Naturally this compounds with b), and for bonus points the incubus has swapped out their literature class textbook for a pornographic dime novel and keeps asking her opinion on the accuracy of the female lead's depiction.

e) Finally, can't cum without permission. Doesn't matter who, just has to be someone else.

This basically goes as you'd expect - she wanders around the school in a daze when not in class, begging anyone and everyone to do anything, just let her cum. Creative as hell. I just wish there was more than two chapters of it >.>.
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