Sophia
06/16/18 02:34PM
Article 13 - Copyright-reform on June 20th
Most of you are probably aware of the copyright reform introducing upload filters in the EU, if you're not and part of the EU, you might wanna check out some petitions and websites cuz if this reform goes live in 4 days the Hub's gonna be effectively killed off in the EU. Most of the content is copyrighted characters here on the hub and getting a license from companies like Disney for this kinda website seems far-fetched (and way too expensive).

So either petition against it, gear up for demonstrations or get a VPN ready because there's no way to vote except for telling your parliament member!

www.change.org/p/european...chinery-save-the-internet
saveyourinternet.eu/

Here's hoping our EU members are going to just vote against it and stop it before it starts.
Metals
06/16/18 04:10PM
Well this has catastrophe written all over it.

I'll support what I can. Good luck folks in the EU
Imasuky
06/16/18 05:08PM
Hope all of you in the EU can do well against this shit.

No government actually knows how you function properly with the internet
Allister
06/16/18 06:14PM
I am dismayed to see this.

But not surprised.
Anon_3.141
06/16/18 08:05PM
Sophia said:
Most of you are probably aware of the copyright reform introducing upload filters in the EU, if you're not and part of the EU, you might wanna check out some petitions and websites cuz if this reform goes live in 4 days the Hub's gonna be effectively killed off in the EU. Most of the content is copyrighted characters here on the hub and getting a license from companies like Disney for this kinda website seems far-fetched (and way too expensive).

So either petition against it, gear up for demonstrations or get a VPN ready because there's no way to vote except for telling your parliament member!

www.change.org/p/european...chinery-save-the-internet
saveyourinternet.eu/

Here's hoping our EU members are going to just vote against it and stop it before it starts.


Meanwhile, in America, the Net Neutrality protections repeal went into effect, and Ajit Pai is likely having lavish parties with his corporate overlords at Verison. Our only hope now is that the House, like the Senate, decides to, as a majority, pass the Net Neutrality-based use of the Congressional Review Act.
TheKinkyFinn
06/16/18 09:17PM
Day by day, it becomes increasingly apparent just what kind of Europe we'll be under the Union.

If this isn't an attempt to stifle the free flow of information (especially of the less-than kosher variety), I don't know what is.

Imasuky said:
No government actually knows how you function properly with the internet

Basically the net needs its own constitution.

Anon_3.141 said:
Meanwhile, in America, the Net Neutrality protections repeal went into effect, and Ajit Pai is likely having lavish parties with his corporate overlords at Verison. Our only hope now is that the House, like the Senate, decides to, as a majority, pass the Net Neutrality-based use of the Congressional Review Act.


Net neutrality protections repeal... So, the internet went back to how it was before NN, into the deep dark age of pre-2015? <<www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh8sVHb5oOA|Oh, the humanity>>.

Anon_3.141
06/16/18 10:41PM
TheKinkyFinn said:
[...]
Net neutrality protections repeal... So, the internet went back to how it was before NN, into the deep dark age of pre-2015? <<www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh8sVHb5oOA|Oh, the humanity>>.


Pre-2015 means no rules against paid prioritization, which means Comcast throttling Netflix in order to make Comcast's video streaming service seem better by comparison, due to Comcast not throttling Comcast's stuff. (The scenario I just described is something that actually happened.)
Gojulas
06/16/18 10:47PM
Anon_3.141 said:
Meanwhile, in America, the Net Neutrality protections repeal went into effect, and Ajit Pai is likely having lavish parties with his corporate overlords at Verison. Our only hope now is that the House, like the Senate, decides to, as a majority, pass the Net Neutrality-based use of the Congressional Review Act.


So the EU is trying to police the internet directly, is bad. Everyone agreeds
But the US trying to police the internet providers forcing NN is a good thing?
The double standard is real
NN is something that happens naturally thanks for the pseudo free market the us have just like it happened until 2015

You never allow the government to put their hands on private interests because it allows political interests to mix with economical ones because, surprise surprise: shit gets political, more restricted and more expensive for everyone

And please, the "copyright" stuff is just an excuse. Those EU overlords just want a reason to shut down stuff they don't like and get some money from big companies in return

*puts the tin foil hat*
They will come for your memes first, then for you! I'm telling you!

bellchan
06/16/18 10:48PM
Anon_3.141 said:
Pre-2015 means no rules against paid prioritization, which means Comcast throttling Netflix in order to make Comcast's video streaming service seem better by comparison, due to Comcast not throttling Comcast's stuff. (The scenario I just described is something that actually happened.)


Yeah, Netflix actually managed to prove this with a nofty trick by marketing a “net speed test” website on their server to show people what their speed was for Netflix. At the time Att and Comcast were speeding access to speed test websites to trick people but they couldn’t trick Netflix’s without allowing the entire site to run that speed.

Then you have the Apple Wallet debacle where a carrier refused to run s payment service on their cell network.

The billions of dollars for wire infrastructure that com giants were given by the government which was pocketed.

This shit NEEDS regulation. The rules were to curtail bad behavior. One myst obly look at the difference between Comcast’s “Customer Promise” page pre-repeal and post-repeal to see where this will go bad.

The Sweden website subscription service is a Worst Case scenario. We already handled the realistic ones and decided enough was enough.

Also America needs to catch the fuck up to Asia and Europe and get Good internet. Y’all are stuck in the mid-2000s and it’s frankly embarrassing.
Gojulas
06/16/18 11:31PM
bellchan said:
Yeah, Netflix actually managed to prove this with a nofty trick by marketing a “net speed test” website on their server to show people what their speed was for Netflix. At the time Att and Comcast were speeding access to speed test websites to trick people but they couldn’t trick Netflix’s without allowing the entire site to run that speed.

Then you have the Apple Wallet debacle where a carrier refused to run s payment service on their cell network.

The billions of dollars for wire infrastructure that com giants were given by the government which was pocketed.

This shit NEEDS regulation. The rules were to curtail bad behavior. One myst obly look at the difference between Comcast’s “Customer Promise” page pre-repeal and post-repeal to see where this will go bad.

The Sweden website subscription service is a Worst Case scenario. We already handled the realistic ones and decided enough was enough.

Also America needs to catch the fuck up to Asia and Europe and get Good internet. Y’all are stuck in the mid-2000s and it’s frankly embarrassing.


Nice list, now name everytime it works just fine.
Which is everytime when no one says anything
Companies get publicly ashamed when get behave like scum which can be translated to money loss and credibility loss. It's literally a self correcting problem. Those companies aren't doing that anymore right? Did the government do something back then? No? Ohh what a surprise. You don't need regulations, they get translated to government-sponsored licenses attached to your name and id and who pays? You pay were you like it or not
Argonis
06/16/18 11:43PM
Ok it seems this thread is starting to spark a fire so we the team are gonna be locking the thread.
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