TheModrenMan
03/20/19 01:26AM
PSA: Patreon to up their rates starting in May
Patreon announced that they'd be moving to a new tiered strategy with the option of multiple plans for content creators. While this is fine in theory, the problem is that their "Pro" plan - essentially what they have now - increases their cut of your money from 5% to 8%.

www.patreon.com/new-creator-plans

This means that, if you want to keep the current rate, you'd need to either go for the "Lite" plan - which is missing a ton of features - or start your Patreon now and be grandfathered into the Pro plan with the same 5% rate.

Basically, if you ever plan to start a Patreon, you should do it before May.
Hawkeye
03/20/19 02:17AM
TheModrenMan said:
Patreon announced that they'd be moving to a new tiered strategy with the option of multiple plans for content creators. While this is fine in theory, the problem is that their "Pro" plan - essentially what they have now - increases their cut of your money from 5% to 8%.

www.patreon.com/new-creator-plans

This means that, if you want to keep the current rate, you'd need to either go for the "Lite" plan - which is missing a ton of features - or start your Patreon now and be grandfathered into the Pro plan with the same 5% rate.

Basically, if you ever plan to start a Patreon, you should do it before May.


Ugh. Fucking Patreon. From what I heard about them it seemed inevitable they'd try to pull something like this eventually.
Sir_Lurksalaot
03/20/19 04:46AM
Think I'm gonna wait for whatever drip becomes
EoD
03/20/19 07:26AM
Hawkeye said:
Ugh. Fucking Patreon. From what I heard about them it seemed inevitable they'd try to pull something like this eventually.


I mean, from what I understand they aren't bringing in enough money to keep functioning as is. And considering their only revenue source is their cut from donations to their users, it was inevitable. It was either increase their cut, or keep operating at a loss and eventually go under.

At least they're letting everyone know well in advance.
Changer
03/20/19 07:41AM
They are bringing in more than enough money to keep their site going, EoD. The problem is, they accepted Venture Capital a while back, and venture capitlists are worse than loan sharks. They don't just want their money back, they want more money every month than the last until it becomes unsustainable and then they kill the business.

This change has nothing to do with them being an "unsustainable" model in practice. It's only to bring in more money to appease the demands of their true owners.
retroactivefailure
03/20/19 04:28PM
EoD said:
I mean, from what I understand they aren't bringing in enough money to keep functioning as is. And considering their only revenue source is their cut from donations to their users, it was inevitable. It was either increase their cut, or keep operating at a loss and eventually go under.

At least they're letting everyone know well in advance.


The operating costs aren't the problem. The investors who constantly want gigantic, frankly unsustainable growth numbers are the problem.

www.crunchbase.com/organization/patreon#section-overview
Anon_3.141
03/20/19 05:02PM
Changer said:
They are bringing in more than enough money to keep their site going, EoD. The problem is, they accepted Venture Capital a while back, and venture capitlists are worse than loan sharks. They don't just want their money back, they want more money every month than the last until it becomes unsustainable and then they kill the business.

This change has nothing to do with them being an "unsustainable" model in practice. It's only to bring in more money to appease the demands of their true owners.


retroactivefailure said:
The operating costs aren't the problem. The investors who constantly want gigantic, frankly unsustainable growth numbers are the problem.

www.crunchbase.com/organization/patreon#section-overview


"All of the money isn't enough money." -Jim Sterling, on the unsustainable desires of the Shareholders of AAA game publishers.
eldomtom2
03/20/19 05:39PM
Changer said:
They are bringing in more than enough money to keep their site going, EoD.


You've got a source for that?
Sir_Lurksalaot
03/20/19 08:50PM
<<twitter.com/FoldableHuman/status/1092846201374892032|Here's a source you may have seen before>> and yeah, $20 million in 5+ years seems like enough to sustain.
EoD
03/20/19 10:37PM
Sir_Lurksalaot said:
<<twitter.com/FoldableHuman/status/1092846201374892032|Here's a source you may have seen before>> and yeah, $20 million in 5+ years seems like enough to sustain.


While I'm not gonna argue on that point, I'm just gonna point out that while 20 mil sounds like a lot, depending on costs and all other fees Patreon might be obligated to, it might not cover everything.
Proxy51
03/20/19 11:46PM
Thanks for the concise heads up ModrenMan.
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