foffyoul5
03/21/19 05:14PM
One of thesethings is not like the other ........ ( you know the song)
Ive noticed theres been alot of irl hypno stuff being uploaded lately im not trying to judge but i thought that was against the rules anyway just figured if point it out as i thought it was wierd
Anon_3.141
03/21/19 05:22PM
foffyoul5 said:
Ive noticed theres been alot of irl hypno stuff being uploaded lately im not trying to judge but i thought that was against the rules anyway just figured if point it out as i thought it was wierd


Manips of IRL images/gifs that are not from a source that does IRL Hypnosis are not allowed.

Images/gifs from a source that does IRL hypnosis are allowed, as long as the only "manipulation" of the image/gif is post-processing to remove artefacting and improve the coloration and lighting within the image/gif (the normal stuff for even regular photos that a normal person would have gotten from a professional photographer they'd hired for an event such as a wedding.)

Example of an allowed IRL source is "Entrancement UK". The stuff that has that tag is stuff from a website (which will pretty much always be in the source link field within the first couple minutes after an upload of content from them) that actually hypnotizes women, films the act of hypnotizing them, and then makes money off of selling that footage. The stuff we get from Entrancement UK are the free teaser images/gifs that the person that runs that company makes for advertisement purposes and posts on here themselves.
godzillahomer
03/21/19 05:23PM
foffyoul5 said:
Ive noticed theres been alot of irl hypno stuff being uploaded lately im not trying to judge but i thought that was against the rules anyway just figured if point it out as i thought it was wierd


as far as I know the rules, they're allowed as long as they actually depict hypnosis; they tend to need a source to prove that, unless an exception is granted by a mod/admin

real life manips on the other hand are not allowed at all

could be wrong on any of these points, so someone with better rule knowledge, correct me and/or elaborate more, please
Anon_3.141
03/21/19 05:25PM
godzillahomer said:
as far as I know the rules, they're allowed as long as they actually depict hypnosis; they tend to need a source to prove that, unless an exception is granted by a mod/admin

real life manips on the other hand are not allowed at all

could be wrong on any of these points, so someone with better rule knowledge, correct me and/or elaborate more, please


The rule specifically is "Real Life Manips", yes. (With the exception that I previously mentioned involving general post-processing image/gif cleanup.)
godzillahomer
03/21/19 05:26PM
Anon_3.141 said:
Manips of IRL images/gifs that are not from a source that does IRL Hypnosis are not allowed.

Images/gifs from a source that does IRL hypnosis are allowed, as long as the only "manipulation" of the image/gif is post-processing to remove artefacting and improve the coloration and lighting within the image/gif (the normal stuff for even regular photos that a normal person would have gotten from a professional photographer they'd hired for an event such as a wedding.)

Example of an allowed IRL source is "Entrancement UK". The stuff that has that tag is stuff from a website (which will pretty much always be in the source link field within the first couple minutes after an upload of content from them) that actually hypnotizes women, films the act of hypnotizing them, and then makes money off of selling that footage. The stuff we get from Entrancement UK are the free teaser images/gifs that the person that runs that company makes for advertisement purposes and posts on here themselves.


heck, even if it's not real hypnosis and its acting, the pictures would still likely be allowed, its still supposed to be hypnosis
Anon_3.141
03/21/19 05:30PM
godzillahomer said:
heck, even if it's not real hypnosis and its acting, the pictures would still likely be allowed, its still supposed to be hypnosis


As long as the source itself is "non-manip" hypnosis (either real or fake (a.k.a.: acting) hypnosis, doesn't matter which), and the version posted here is itself not manipped, then it's fine. It's just that if it is the acting kind, it has to be stage style hypnosis, where the only facial indications of hypnosis is a "blank" expression, maybe a bit of drool, but stuff like putting spirals in the eyes is a no-no.
Jabberwocky
03/21/19 07:47PM
Anon_3.141 said:
As long as the source itself is "non-manip" hypnosis (either real or fake (a.k.a.: acting) hypnosis, doesn't matter which), and the version posted here is itself not manipped, then it's fine. It's just that if it is the acting kind, it has to be stage style hypnosis, where the only facial indications of hypnosis is a "blank" expression, maybe a bit of drool, but stuff like putting spirals in the eyes is a no-no.


That last part isn't true.
godzillahomer
03/21/19 07:55PM
Jabberwocky said:
That last part isn't true.


yep, plenty of ways to do it with acting, just swinging a pendant or pocket watch helps set the tone
Jabberwocky
03/21/19 08:00PM
godzillahomer said:
yep, plenty of ways to do it with acting, just swinging a pendant or pocket watch helps set the tone


No, I mean the part about spiral eyes. Effects like that are fine as long as they exist within the source of the image.
Hypnosis-guy
03/21/19 08:09PM
foffyoul5 said:
Ive noticed theres been alot of irl hypno stuff being uploaded lately im not trying to judge but i thought that was against the rules anyway just figured if point it out as i thought it was wierd


The Rules say:
Real Life Images
For real-life images, there must be an obvious sign of hypnosis or mind control. All real-life photos and images must come from a media source that pertains to hypnosis or mind control. A source link must be included in the source field of the post.


Jabberwocky said:
No, I mean the part about spiral eyes. Effects like that are fine as long as they exist within the source of the image.


The Rules say:
Real Photo Manips
Manips of real photos and images are not permitted.


Hope this helps both of you.
crazyman
03/21/19 08:14PM
Jabberwocky said:
No, I mean the part about spiral eyes. Effects like that are fine as long as they exist within the source of the image.


i personally dont think that should be allowed, because then any image can be uploaded and said "oh the effects are in the source"
Jabberwocky
03/21/19 08:29PM
Hypnosis-guy said:
Hope this helps both of you.



Special effects are not "manips."

crazyman said:
i personally dont think that should be allowed, because then any image can be uploaded and said "oh the effects are in the source"


Nope. It would have to be indicative of MC in the source, just like everything else that gets uploaded here.
crazyman
03/21/19 08:40PM
Jabberwocky said:
Nope. It would have to be indicative of MC in the source, just like everything else that gets uploaded here.


im just saying that that rule could be stretched farther than we would likely want
Hypnosis-guy
03/21/19 08:40PM
Jabberwocky said:
Special effects are not "manips."


Actually, if I remember correctly, a few years back there was a debate on use of a similar special effect and whether it should be allowed on the hub, it was ultimately decided to count as a manip and was removed. Maybe they'll change their minds about using special effects, but not likely.
Jabberwocky
03/21/19 08:45PM
Hypnosis-guy said:
Actually, if I remember correctly, a few years back there was a debate on use of a similar special effect and whether it should be allowed on the hub, it was ultimately decided to count as a manip and was removed. Maybe they'll change their minds about using special effects, but not likely.


Given that a number of real gifs with special effects have been kept up, I would assume that's not the case. It's a ridiculous position though, IMO. If spiral eyes in, say, a comic book to indicate MC if fine, then why should spiral eyes in a movie to indicate the same thing be any different? It isn't the same as manipping an existing clip to have spiral eyes, if the effect exists within the work itself then it's ridiculous to remove it based on a stupidly broad definition of "manip."
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