So Article 13 passed.
Fuck.
That... is the opposite of good...
wait a year and then they realize how much they fucked up
Is this the EU meme thing?
Yeah, both 11 and 13 were controversial - article 11 seemed okay to me personally as it fucked companies like Google and Facebook, which have needed a good fucking in a while, but article 13 is one of the worst excuses for "copyright" I have ever seen.
For those of us, who aren't EU, what does does it do? It's been a while since I heard about it.
I'm building an army to fight article 13. Would you like to know more?
nalak said:
For those of us, who aren't EU, what does does it do? It's been a while since I heard about it.
For those of us, who aren't EU, what does does it do? It's been a while since I heard about it.
<<gizmodo.com/a-dark-day-co...the-internet-a-1833570802|This article explains a lot about why people are Pissed Off about this.>>
Essentially, the controversial parts of the Directive are as follows:
- Article 11 requires that websites pay a licensing fee to news outlets if they use snippets from, or link to articles from that outlet. I don't need to tell you how much it'll reduce traffic to these websites when Google pulls its news-aggregator service out of the EU as they've said they might. Other aggregators have threatened to do the same.
- Article 13 requires that platforms (like Hypnohub) "make their best efforts" to obtain licenses to copyrighted material before it is uploaded. The exact wording of the article essentially requires every website to implement an upload filter similar to YouTube's - note that YouTube's filter cost Google millions of dollars to implement, tweak and get "close enough".
crazyman said:
wait a year and then they realize how much they fucked up
wait a year and then they realize how much they fucked up
I'm hoping it'll take less than that - within 2 months, we get to vote for new EU Parliament reps. There's massive call to not vote for any of the parties that voted in favour of the controversial articles - I'm hoping that that message will be clear enough to have it reversed before damage occurs.
Failing that, may all the companies that lobbied for Articles 11 and 13 go bankrupt.
NamesAreForTheWeak said:
<<gizmodo.com/a-dark-day-co...the-internet-a-1833570802|This article explains a lot about why people are Pissed Off about this.>>
Essentially, the controversial parts of the Directive are ostensibly made to protect the interests of copyright holders - but they're either completely backwards to reality (Article 11, which assumes that aggregators like Google News are costing the actual publishers money - which is the exact opposite of what they do) or require such massive investments that they would effectively destroy upstarts (Article 13, which effectively requires an upload filter like YouTube's. Note that Google spent millions on it, and hasn't even gotten it right.)
<<gizmodo.com/a-dark-day-co...the-internet-a-1833570802|This article explains a lot about why people are Pissed Off about this.>>
Essentially, the controversial parts of the Directive are ostensibly made to protect the interests of copyright holders - but they're either completely backwards to reality (Article 11, which assumes that aggregators like Google News are costing the actual publishers money - which is the exact opposite of what they do) or require such massive investments that they would effectively destroy upstarts (Article 13, which effectively requires an upload filter like YouTube's. Note that Google spent millions on it, and hasn't even gotten it right.)
To add insult to injury:
a) Websites that can't conform to Articles 11 & 13 I believe are subject to a fine (and if they can't pay or put proper measures in place they may have to pull service out of the EU entirely)
b) In the UK they also passed a law forcing people to by a porn licence (obligatory "Oi bruv you got a loicense"). Not entirely sure how this works on Porn I've created but hey
Hopefully they will realise this is a bad idea but if not we need to all put our heads together and believe in the power of friendship
or VPN's... they may work
Next step; a big, beautiful firewall to curtail illegal memegration. After that, a totally original social credit system.
Foolycooly said:
To add insult to injury:
a) Websites that can't conform to Articles 11 & 13 I believe are subject to a fine (and if they can't pay or put proper measures in place they may have to pull service out of the EU entirely)
b) In the UK they also passed a law forcing people to by a porn licence (obligatory "Oi bruv you got a loicense"). Not entirely sure how this works on Porn I've created but hey
Hopefully they will realise this is a bad idea but if not we need to all put our heads together and believe in the power of friendship
or VPN's... they may work
To add insult to injury:
a) Websites that can't conform to Articles 11 & 13 I believe are subject to a fine (and if they can't pay or put proper measures in place they may have to pull service out of the EU entirely)
b) In the UK they also passed a law forcing people to by a porn licence (obligatory "Oi bruv you got a loicense"). Not entirely sure how this works on Porn I've created but hey
Hopefully they will realise this is a bad idea but if not we need to all put our heads together and believe in the power of friendship
or VPN's... they may work
on b, depends on their power to enforce it
the tv license the UK has, for example, has a laughably weak enforcement, the BBC can't barge into your home without permission, so they're left with weak scare tactics like their supposed tv detecting vans
It's especially annoying that Article 13 passed for people from countries whose representatives were generally against Article 13 (like in my case the Netherlands). So because countries like Germany and France have such an overwhelming majority in favour of the ruling, countries like mine just have to deal with it.
In the past I've been quite a big supporter of the EU, but cases like this where the future of many (including myself) is reliant on old people who are likely too old to know and/or care about advancements in technology not being idiots is something I'm not a fan of in the slightest.
In the past I've been quite a big supporter of the EU, but cases like this where the future of many (including myself) is reliant on old people who are likely too old to know and/or care about advancements in technology not being idiots is something I'm not a fan of in the slightest.
NuRho said:
It's especially annoying that Article 13 passed for people from countries whose representatives were generally against Article 13 (like in my case the Netherlands). So because countries like Germany and France have such an overwhelming majority in favour of the ruling, countries like mine just have to deal with it.
In the past I've been quite a big supporter of the EU, but cases like this where the future of many (including myself) is reliant on old people who are likely too old to know and/or care about advancements in technology not being idiots is something I'm not a fan of in the slightest.
It's especially annoying that Article 13 passed for people from countries whose representatives were generally against Article 13 (like in my case the Netherlands). So because countries like Germany and France have such an overwhelming majority in favour of the ruling, countries like mine just have to deal with it.
In the past I've been quite a big supporter of the EU, but cases like this where the future of many (including myself) is reliant on old people who are likely too old to know and/or care about advancements in technology not being idiots is something I'm not a fan of in the slightest.
my idea is nobody who works in making laws should be allowed do anything in tech if they are over 50 and do not have a degree in tech
crazyman said:
my idea is nobody who works in making laws should be allowed do anything in tech if they are over 50 and do not have a degree in tech
my idea is nobody who works in making laws should be allowed do anything in tech if they are over 50 and do not have a degree in tech
In case anyone didn't see this from November last year, Japan's Cybersecurity Minister has never used a computer: www.bbc.com/news/technology-46222026
He's also in charge of the 2020 Olympics btw.
Proxy51 said:
In case anyone didn't see this from November last year, Japan's Cybersecurity Minister has never used a computer: www.bbc.com/news/technology-46222026
He's also in charge of the 2020 Olympics btw.
In case anyone didn't see this from November last year, Japan's Cybersecurity Minister has never used a computer: www.bbc.com/news/technology-46222026
He's also in charge of the 2020 Olympics btw.
wut?
