HypnoHub - Ai generated hypnosis content

loganblast39

04/20/23 05:20PM

jigiyak said:
wait you allow non ai hypno art?

believe it or not, there are already several images on the hub not drawn by AI, but instead by something called "huu-mans"! i myself have counted at least 7 such images just today!

jigiyak

04/20/23 07:00PM

loganblast39 said:
believe it or not, there are already several images on the hub not drawn by AI, but instead by something called "huu-mans"! i myself have counted at least 7 such images just today!

oh, those things made out of flesh and bones (eww so gross) man those things are the worse

in all seriousness that was not what i meant, fast fingers making me think i wrote that stuff that i didn't

mclo

04/21/23 12:50AM

ribcaca said:
did anyone have any luck using stable diffusion to make hypno lewds?

Yeah, there's 700+ ai generated pics on the hub (ai art tag)

Others have mentioned that there are good LORAs to use:

civitai.com/?query=hypnosis

I've gotten mixed results with them. I got better results from manips though.

GuileGaze said:

Ezrael said:
Did anyone try training a LoRA from hypnohub's images?

I made an one extremely quickly without any manual tagging (just used WD Tagger), but didn't get great results. Especially when dealing with eyes/expressions, you'll probably need to manually tag those in the images or the autotagger will miss them. Not to mention that you'll probably also want a lot of close-ups to properly train those small details.

I might try to go back to it though, especially because none of the models I've found can create a good expressionless/mindless look.

Same! I find that the models are best at creating smiling people. Your AI stuff is really good, by the way! Big fan.

Mindwipe

04/21/23 02:23AM

Yeah, I'm just gonna ask very nicely, not as a moderator, but just as someone who still cares about this site, for people to NOT train AIs with images from this site. Please and thank you.

ribcaca

04/21/23 03:09AM

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hypnohub.net/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=168595

Changer

04/21/23 12:44PM

jigiyak said:

EdgeOfTheMoon said:
Did you not think to ask before using the pics on the site like that? I know several artists on the site have said they don't want their art used for AI training. Disrespecting that seems like a sure way to chase artists off the site

"won't somebody think of the artists"

ok, calm down helen

Do you even understand how much of an entitled brat you sound like?

An artist who specializes in making our very specific kink and works very hard to do so, points out that you should do the bare minimum of asking artists for permission before using their art to train an AI to reproduce their style and you're response is to flippantly mock them for it?

How entitled do you have to be to think that their work is yours by right? For you to consider their desire to have some agency over how their own work is used to not only be invalid, but to even find the idea of it so absurd as to warrant mockery?

Its beyond disrespectful.

hypnoahegao

04/21/23 05:26PM

AI generated art is the first and only tag ive ever had to blacklist on this site since becoming a member here years ago.

AI will be a great tool to help save time for digital artists who draw by hand. It is fully insane that people are using AI tools to create soulless art and claiming that they are "artists" themselves. It feels like NFTs finally died only for cryptobros to pivot to justifying the theft of people's art a whole different way

jigiyak

04/21/23 11:08PM

Changer said:

jigiyak said:

EdgeOfTheMoon said:
Did you not think to ask before using the pics on the site like that? I know several artists on the site have said they don't want their art used for AI training. Disrespecting that seems like a sure way to chase artists off the site

"won't somebody think of the artists"

ok, calm down helen

Do you even understand how much of an entitled brat you sound like?

An artist who specializes in making our very specific kink and works very hard to do so, points out that you should do the bare minimum of asking artists for permission before using their art to train an AI to reproduce their style and you're response is to flippantly mock them for it?

How entitled do you have to be to think that their work is yours by right? For you to consider their desire to have some agency over how their own work is used to not only be invalid, but to even find the idea of it so absurd as to warrant mockery?

Its beyond disrespectful.

i ask the same from you, do you to even realize how defensive you sound

first of all i don't know of any ai that has ever used one singular artist to be trained, second of all have you ever seen ai pictures, i don't think you can just look at them and say it's the art style of one single artist

IDPet

04/21/23 11:14PM

jigiyak said:

Changer said:

jigiyak said:

EdgeOfTheMoon said:
Did you not think to ask before using the pics on the site like that? I know several artists on the site have said they don't want their art used for AI training. Disrespecting that seems like a sure way to chase artists off the site

"won't somebody think of the artists"

ok, calm down helen

Do you even understand how much of an entitled brat you sound like?

An artist who specializes in making our very specific kink and works very hard to do so, points out that you should do the bare minimum of asking artists for permission before using their art to train an AI to reproduce their style and you're response is to flippantly mock them for it?

How entitled do you have to be to think that their work is yours by right? For you to consider their desire to have some agency over how their own work is used to not only be invalid, but to even find the idea of it so absurd as to warrant mockery?

Its beyond disrespectful.

i ask the same from you, do you to even realize how defensive you sound

first of all i don't know of any ai that has ever used one singular artist to be trained, second of all have you ever seen ai pictures, i don't think you can just look at them and say it's the art style of one single artist

Samiki chan.

GuileGaze

04/21/23 11:45PM

jigiyak said:
first of all i don't know of any ai that has ever used one singular artist to be trained

While no actual model trains solely on a specific artist since no artist will ever have enough art to fully train a model, there are style LoRAs which do just that. I personally see no ethical issues with using art "as a collective" to finetune a model, but think that a line is crossed when a specific style is trained and used verbatim (unless the artist gives the ok to do it of course).

EdgeOfTheMoon

04/21/23 11:45PM

jigiyak said:

Changer said:

jigiyak said:

EdgeOfTheMoon said:
Did you not think to ask before using the pics on the site like that? I know several artists on the site have said they don't want their art used for AI training. Disrespecting that seems like a sure way to chase artists off the site

"won't somebody think of the artists"

ok, calm down helen

Do you even understand how much of an entitled brat you sound like?

An artist who specializes in making our very specific kink and works very hard to do so, points out that you should do the bare minimum of asking artists for permission before using their art to train an AI to reproduce their style and you're response is to flippantly mock them for it?

How entitled do you have to be to think that their work is yours by right? For you to consider their desire to have some agency over how their own work is used to not only be invalid, but to even find the idea of it so absurd as to warrant mockery?

Its beyond disrespectful.

i ask the same from you, do you to even realize how defensive you sound

first of all i don't know of any ai that has ever used one singular artist to be trained, second of all have you ever seen ai pictures, i don't think you can just look at them and say it's the art style of one single artist

Again. Not sure what point you're trying make here.

Me and Changer were talking about respecting artists wishes about not wanting their work to be used in a certain way.

Like I said before. A few artists made a very reasonable request about how their work is used. I think it's fair to respect that. Don't you?

jigiyak

04/22/23 01:31AM

look if you wanna know my opnion go read guilegaze stance on it, because after that all i could say would be copypasting what they said, also all i was trying to say is that you all are getting way too defensive over this shit

also can we just stop quoting the entire thing, because it's kinda getting out of hand

Changer

04/22/23 05:08AM

jigiyak said:
look if you wanna know my opnion go read guilegaze stance on it, because after that all i could say would be copypasting what they said, also all i was trying to say is that you all are getting way too defensive over this shit

also can we just stop quoting the entire thing, because it's kinda getting out of hand

Imagine a thief holding someone's TV being like "All I'm saying is, you're being too defensive. We could have a productive dialogue if you weren't being so unreasonable."

Someone saying "Don't do this thing to me" is not being too defensive. You openly MOCKING people for it, however, is explicitly aggressive.

EdgeOfTheMoon

04/22/23 09:23AM

jigiyak said:
look if you wanna know my opnion go read guilegaze stance on it, because after that all i could say would be copypasting what they said, also all i was trying to say is that you all are getting way too defensive over this shit

also can we just stop quoting the entire thing, because it's kinda getting out of hand

In what way was I being defensive? Also why does it matter if I was?

I'm not trying to attack you here I'm just trying to understand your point of view. It really seems like you're saying that even if artists request that their work not be used for AI that people are free to ignore that. Is that accurate?

hypnoahegao

04/22/23 07:10PM

Feeding someone else's art to train and teach an AI without the artist permission is wrong. An artist should have a say in how their art is used. Indiscriminate AI learning or intentionally feeding an AI art that you like is problomatic for artists. End of story.

The majority of people claiming that it iant a big deal aren't artists themselves, or dont live paycheck to paycheck off the art they create.