HypnoHub - How do I become a decent H/MC writer?

Ogodei-Khan

12/23/14 06:55AM

Good mc is a little terrifying. We can see the pleasure of of it, but should also realize that the total loss of control should be kind of scary.

Although that's playing at a higher level than i at least can achieve.

PomPom

12/23/14 07:02AM

disgustinggirl said:
Don't do this:

(porn star name) was a (hair color, height, weight, breast size) (cliché sexualized occupation) who for some reason always acted like an utter bitch towards everybody around her.

One day when she went to work/school/shopping/funeral (...) (a wild smart guy with hypno skills appears)

(unoriginal induction is super effective!)

"Okay now keep calling me Master. Also, strip and give me a blow job."

(description of sexual activities)

The end.

*rips up 200-page manuscript*

But for reals, this.

TheKinkyFinn

12/23/14 10:17AM

disgustinggirl said:
Don't do this:

(porn star name) was a (hair color, height, weight, breast size) (cliché sexualized occupation) who for some reason always acted like an utter bitch towards everybody around her.

One day when she went to work/school/shopping/funeral (...) (a wild smart guy with hypno skills appears)

(unoriginal induction is super effective!)

"Okay now keep calling me Master. Also, strip and give me a blow job."

(description of sexual activities)

The end.

I would argue that a good writer can take this and make it fresh or at least interesting to read.

In fact, that's my contribution to this thread: try to be aware of the usual tropes in these sort of stories and add some kind of twist or turn to them if you choose to use them in abundance. Heck, sometimes even playing it straight can be a twist.

strangeperson

12/23/14 10:43AM

disgustinggirl said:
Don't do this:

(porn star name) was a (hair color, height, weight, breast size) (cliché sexualized occupation) who for some reason always acted like an utter bitch towards everybody around her.

One day when she went to work/school/shopping/funeral (...) (a wild smart guy with hypno skills appears)

(unoriginal induction is super effective!)

"Okay now keep calling me Master. Also, strip and give me a blow job."

(description of sexual activities)

The end.

TheKinkyFinn said:
I would argue that a good writer can take this and make it fresh or at least interesting to read.

In fact, that's my contribution to this thread: try to be aware of the usual tropes in these sort of stories and add some kind of twist or turn to them if you choose to use them in abundance. Heck, sometimes even playing it straight can be a twist.

Both of these actually. I'd also suggest coming up with a creative induction method. Something that's fun/exciting to see used.

I may have also heard the pokemon theme when I read disgustinggirl's post >___>

TakyonH

12/23/14 11:23AM

TheKinkyFinn said:
In fact, that's my contribution to this thread: try to be aware of the usual tropes in these sort of stories and add some kind of twist or turn to them if you choose to use them in abundance.

uughghghu no, this like by very nature looks pretentious always and is putting yourself between the story and the reader which is bad
dont do it

Mr_Face said:
In actual seriousness. I think the point on doms and subs is amiss because its the interaction between fucker and fuckee which I find interesting; and it is the effective handling of those relationships - who is sticking it to who; whose needs are getting met and why - I find interesting.

i'd love to respond to this but i have no idea what you're saying
good taste on jukebox though

TheKinkyFinn

12/23/14 12:52PM

TakyonH said:
uughghghu no, this like by very nature looks pretentious always and is putting yourself between the story and the reader which is bad
dont do it

I'm not saying to only do that, simply that always avoiding clichés isn't necessarily right. If one is dead set on avoiding anything cliché, that itself can come off pretentious, plus they're likely to find themselves lacking in usable material. To expand, I'm not saying to go full Shyamalan either, just to acknowledge tired tropes and play around with them a bit in a way that feels natural.

TakyonH

12/23/14 10:32PM

When people do that it's like they're saying "Hey, I'm consciously gonna do this thing everyone else does... But it'll be better, because I'm better! Aren't I great?" And you can usually read that in the writing. The only genre it works in is humor. Otherwise just don't even bother thinking about what's original or not original or whatever; just write until what you're writing is original. At first it probably won't be and that's ok. But like the phrase "tired tropes" just sounds icky already, don't even focus on that shit

NamesAreForTheWeak

12/23/14 11:02PM

I'd say "Read an IKEA manual. Done? Okay, now don't write your smut like that."

On a more helpful note, read what you write when you're not "in the mood". I've found that all good H/MC stories were still decent reads even when I'm not looking to get off.

Also, someone else suggested just reading a lot. I wholly support that - read a ton of books, figure out which writing style you like and take what you like about it into your own work. Lolita is basically required reading even for non-smut writers IMHO, it's a beautifully written book despite the subject matter giving its name to something that's blacklisted by default on this site.

Mr_Face

12/24/14 02:39AM

TakyonH said:

Mr_Face said:
In actual seriousness. I think the point on doms and subs is amiss because its the interaction between fucker and fuckee which I find interesting; and it is the effective handling of those relationships - who is sticking it to who; whose needs are getting met and why - I find interesting.
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i'd love to respond to this but i have no idea what you're saying
good taste on jukebox though

You original point being to focus on the dominant person instead of the subject. Strictly adhered to that point would rule out a story where the hypnotist was themselves a subject. A story told with the relationship of 'sub hypnotizes subject' is rather arousing, regardless of how the reader sees the story told (through the eyes of the subject, controller, or horny ghost... erm, I mean third person).

Also, thanks.

TakyonH

12/24/14 05:28AM

i think you misinterpreted what i was saying mate
i'm talking about how you actually word the scene during an induction

Ogodei-Khan

12/25/14 02:41AM

Since action is important in porn, one thing you need to be mindful of is blocking. Porn is a very visual medium, so even written porn needs to be really "seen" in the reader's mind to be appreciated in the... intended manner. Obviously don't get too bogged down in the precise nature of each motion, each lick, etc. However, we should know where our actors are, and in a lot of cases, how they transition between positions. This can also increase eroticism. For instance, one technique i often employ in writing a lesbian scene is to start with kissing and move to cunnilingus, but do so by having the on-top kisser lick her way down the other's body.

Dreamshade

12/25/14 04:02AM

Ogodei-Khan said:
Since action is important in porn, one thing you need to be mindful of is blocking. Porn is a very visual medium, so even written porn needs to be really "seen" in the reader's mind to be appreciated in the... intended manner. Obviously don't get too bogged down in the precise nature of each motion, each lick, etc. However, we should know where our actors are, and in a lot of cases, how they transition between positions. This can also increase eroticism. For instance, one technique i often employ in writing a lesbian scene is to start with kissing and move to cunnilingus, but do so by having the on-top kisser lick her way down the other's body.

More licky-licky please. :3