RedCollarBlackCollar
03/20/18 08:47AM
Grim said:
right, so relevant tags include

barefoot, feet, foot_worship, foot_licking, foot sniffing, footjob cum_on_feet, cum_on_foot, dirt_ feet, hypnotic_feet, huge_feet, and nonhuman_feet

- can we stop people from using feet when they see someone is barefoot? probably not, and neither suggests an emphasis

- so we put feet under barefoot, and try to emphasize the use of foot_worship for any foot fetish oriented work; for those who wish to avoid foot fetishes, we can point to foot_worship
[unless we want to change that to foot_fetish or make additional tag foot_fetish to denote such a piece]

personally I prefer cum on foot to cum on feet, since the plural implies a minimum of the singular, but we tend to use the plurals on this site, plus cum on feet is the much more popular tag, so I will go change those now [there were only 4]

is this all agreeable and clear?


Yeah, I feel like feet + barefoot should be one of the same thing.

I don't know if "non-human feet" should be its own tag, as that will only make it's usage fairly confusing.

Foot worship is mainly just people literally worshipping one's feet, so I'm unsure if that would be the tag used for "emphasis of feet."
Mindwipe
03/20/18 09:42AM
RedCollarBlackCollar said:
Yeah, I feel like feet + barefoot should be one of the same thing.

I don't know if "non-human feet" should be its own tag, as that will only make it's usage fairly confusing.

Foot worship is mainly just people literally worshipping one's feet, so I'm unsure if that would be the tag used for "emphasis of feet."


No, no. First of all, "no_shoes" and "barefoot" are not the same thing. Barefoot means bare feet. No shoes means no shoes, but they could still be wearing socks, pantyhose, tights, etc. If we ever get rid of the "feet" tag, we'd have to replace it with something like "no_shoes," but we'd still need the "barefoot" tag. Second, yes, we need "non-human_feet" since we added it specifically because people asked for it. Some people like human feet but don't want to see animal/monster feet. And as I said before, "foot_focus" makes the most sense for a tag specifically for an emphasis on feet.
Imasuky
03/20/18 09:56AM
Mindwipe said:
No, no. First of all, "no_shoes" and "barefoot" are not the same thing. Barefoot means bare feet. No shoes means no shoes, but they could still be wearing socks, pantyhose, tights, etc. If we ever get rid of the "feet" tag, we'd have to replace it with something like "no_shoes," but we'd still need the "barefoot" tag. Second, yes, we need "non-human_feet" since we added it specifically because people asked for it. Some people like human feet but don't want to see animal/monster feet. And as I said before, "foot_focus" makes the most sense for a tag specifically for an emphasis on feet.


Seconding the foot_focus tag idea
bugmenot
03/20/18 10:06AM
Grim said:
do we need either boobs or breasts as tags?



As far as I understand it, broad tags like breasts are basically a catch-all for when someone doesn't want to be too specific when searching.

It's the same reason we have a cum/semen tag despite having [spoiler=so many cum* tags]{{cum_on_breasts}}, {{cum_on_body}}, {{cum_on_face}}, {{cum_on_clothes}}, {{cum_on_hair}}, {{cum_on_feet}}, {{cum_on_ass}} {{cum_in_pussy}}, {{cum_in_ass}}, {{cum_in_mouth}}, and {{cum_drinking}}[/spoiler]; some people are looking for something very specific, others aren't.

It's true that you can get similar results with tags like female and futanari, but I think it's one of those "better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it" tags.

I honestly never really thought about whether it was necessary or not, I just kind of assumed that it was just one of those tags that every booru had.
RedCollarBlackCollar
03/20/18 10:27AM
Mindwipe said:
No, no. First of all, "no_shoes" and "barefoot" are not the same thing. Barefoot means bare feet. No shoes means no shoes, but they could still be wearing socks, pantyhose, tights, etc. If we ever get rid of the "feet" tag, we'd have to replace it with something like "no_shoes," but we'd still need the "barefoot" tag. Second, yes, we need "non-human_feet" since we added it specifically because people asked for it. Some people like human feet but don't want to see animal/monster feet. And as I said before, "foot_focus" makes the most sense for a tag specifically for an emphasis on feet.


Well if that's the case, then that's all the more reason there should be further distinction. I said that they should be the same thing (like how yuri and lesbian are both linked) in regards to how they're currently being used. But in your explanation, yes, there could be a new version of the tag to keep people from being confused.

In regards to "non-human feet", that was something I more or less had mixed feelings on due to the issue of "feet = barefoot" from my original understanding. That, and I assumed that most people would ignore the tag in favor of specific ones (like the "hooves" tag that brought this up), so I wasn't sure if there was a point to have a general tag that would be ignored. Unless any time hooves or other such tags are used, "non-human feet" are linked to it as a child tag, which could maybe be a solution.

I agree, though I hope that the tag doesn't become a subjective issue.
bugmenot
03/20/18 10:59AM
RedCollarBlackCollar said:
Unless any time hooves or other such tags are used, "non-human feet" are linked to it as a child tag, which could maybe be a solution.


I think things would work better if hooves was aliased to non-human_feet, there aren't enough images with the hooves tag to warrant making it implicate non-human_feet. The paws tag could also be aliased to non-human_feet for the same reason.
Grim
03/20/18 12:41PM
bugmenot said:
I think things would work better if hooves was aliased to non-human_feet, there aren't enough images with the hooves tag to warrant making it implicate non-human_feet. The paws tag could also be aliased to non-human_feet for the same reason.


makes sense to me

bugmenot said:
As far as I understand it, broad tags like breasts are basically a catch-all for when someone doesn't want to be too specific when searching.



well alrighty then, seems a legit reason

Mindwipe said:
And as I said before, "foot_focus" makes the most sense for a tag specifically for an emphasis on feet.


personally I prefer foot-fetish, since I feel that's a more commonly used term, but I'm not opposed to using foot_focus..... now, who's going to change all those?

maybe an announcement could be made: NEED FOOT FETISH USERS TO GO THROUGH HUB'S PICS AND CHANGE TAGS - CONTACT ADMIN FOR ASSIGNMENT

and then split it up like "take pages 30-40, and then contact me again if you still want to continue"
just an idea for leveraging manpower of people who would already be interested.... or maybe an announcement of a forum post where, after things are agreed upon here, a list of changes and requests to contact 'x' admin for assignments can be regularly placed and updated
Mindwipe
03/20/18 11:28PM
Grim said:
personally I prefer foot-fetish, since I feel that's a more commonly used term, but I'm not opposed to using foot_focus..... now, who's going to change all those?

maybe an announcement could be made: NEED FOOT FETISH USERS TO GO THROUGH HUB'S PICS AND CHANGE TAGS - CONTACT ADMIN FOR ASSIGNMENT

and then split it up like "take pages 30-40, and then contact me again if you still want to continue"
just an idea for leveraging manpower of people who would already be interested.... or maybe an announcement of a forum post where, after things are agreed upon here, a list of changes and requests to contact 'x' admin for assignments can be regularly placed and updated


If we do indeed make these changes, and I say "if" because this is a pretty big change of a very frequently-used tag that I think should have more input on before going into effect, then I'll make a news post informing people and asking for assistance where needed. Luckily, certain things can be done easily as an administrator, such as changing "feet" to "no_shoes".
bugmenot
03/22/18 02:32AM
Does anyone have any thoughts on the {{sleepy}} tag? I feel like it's kind of unnecessary.

How about a half-closed_eyes or partially-closed_eyes tag instead, since that seems to be more or less how the sleepy tag is being used?
Mindwipe
03/22/18 02:39AM
bugmenot said:
Does anyone have any thoughts on the {{sleepy}} tag? I feel like it's kind of unnecessary.

How about a half-closed_eyes or partially-closed_eyes tag instead, since that seems to be more or less how the sleepy tag is being used?


I have no idea when or why that tag was made. "dazed" is what's supposed to be use for partially-closed eyes. Though, honestly, we should probably just change that tag to "partially-closed_eyes" because "dazed" isn't very clear.
Friye
03/22/18 02:46AM
Regardless of the outcome (though I second the foot_focus tag) I'd be happy to sift through all the posts and change tags should that ever proved necessary. I like grinding *shrug* :)

I like barefoot or socked feet (thigh highs, represent!) but I have no foot fetish and don't care too much about a picture usually if he feet are the only focus. Just my two cents!
bugmenot
03/22/18 02:49AM
Mindwipe said:
I have no idea when or why that tag was made. "dazed" is what's supposed to be use for partially-closed eyes. Though, honestly, we should probably just change that tag to "partially-closed_eyes" because "dazed" isn't very clear.


That sounds good, but I don't think you can just alias dazed to partially-closed_eyes.

Right now, dazed appears to be a mixture of partially-closed_eyes, expressionless, and empty_eyes, which further solidifies your point about it being ambiguous.

Edit: I can help out with changing the tags if you'd like, just tell me what to do.
Grim
03/23/18 12:24PM
Mindwipe said:
I have no idea when or why that tag was made. "dazed" is what's supposed to be use for partially-closed eyes. Though, honestly, we should probably just change that tag to "partially-closed_eyes" because "dazed" isn't very clear.


I usually only apply dazed if there is some symbols near the head, like

hypnohub.net/post/show/27...cheetah_girl-dazed-disney

or

hypnohub.net/post/show/11...omics-female_only-femdom-


given context, I essentially take it as another signifier for mind control, like various eye effects [spirals, rings, kaa, etc]
bugmenot
03/24/18 03:11AM
The {{plushie}} and {{stuffed_animal}} tags should probably be combined. Danbooru aliases plushie to stuffed_animal.
RedCollarBlackCollar
03/27/18 04:42AM
The Siren tag confuses me...
hypnohub.net/post?tags=siren
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