Fossilbrand
09/06/13 05:47PM
Artist Critique
For all you mannippers, artists, or anyone else who produces creative work and puts it out for random people to view, how do you like receiving your criticism for your work?

Now for me I generally like showing people and asking them one on one how it was. I trust them to be brutally honest and try to poke and prod whatever I can to improve. But in the instance of showing it off to random people, I wouldn't know what to do. Again I like the brutally honest thing but I would want that communication.

So what about you guys? Also this was brought about because I have curiosities that must be satisfied...for science!
Mr.H
09/06/13 08:07PM
I used to be horrified of showing people things I produced, awful self esteem lead me to feel like if I got negative feedback that'd validate how I felt. I've gotten over that, the fact that I'm trying to produce hypno stuff is probably proof I'm more comfortable with it. Its why I made a thread for my WIPs, to get feedback at all.

I wish I could give decent critiques though, I always have trouble putting into words what I do and don't like about a picture.
Zatara666
09/06/13 08:43PM
understood well and hope that the translator may have made a good job ...

XD

in particular I like my strong criticisms and highlighting the flaws in my drawings there ... I prefer it to just tell me that my works are great and others ...

this kind of criticism makes you better, when you realize your flaws ...
not too much help settle your current work and always look for more ...
Mindwipe
09/07/13 01:24AM
The couple of times I can remember receiving criticism on my manips, they helped me fix several errors (including an error that wasn't pointed out, but I only found by going back to fix something else). So, yeah, criticism is good.
Stem_Cell
09/07/13 02:09AM
My problem with giving critique is that the only times I feel compelled to critique, are the ones when there's a problem or something I don't like, and I feel guilty of giving only negative feedback.

I wonder if an artist even wants critique when it's just about fixes :P
Mr.H
09/07/13 02:33AM
Yeah sometimes I feel like I may offend if I point something out thats wrong, or something along those lines. I mean not every artist is going react venomously to crit so I know I really shouldn't feel that way.
KinkyLoli
09/07/13 03:44AM
I like critique, but the best one is when is constructive, critique just to make you feel bad no one likes, right? ^^

But if a person comment something like "an eye is more big than other, is your style?", I can be more attentive and fix my mistakes. Sometimes I can't see my own errors, and I need the help from others with comments :)

(and by some reason, negative comments make me feel that I want improve much more)
Zatara666
09/07/13 03:46AM
in particular, yes..

I like to do see the errors even though it sounds negative ...

can really criticize ...

hem ...
I think you can only criticize the technique, but not the drawing composision ...

My point of view ...
Fossilbrand
09/07/13 05:20AM
Stem_Cell said:
My problem with giving critique is that the only times I feel compelled to critique, are the ones when there's a problem or something I don't like, and I feel guilty of giving only negative feedback.

I wonder if an artist even wants critique when it's just about fixes :P


See that's when I want to give out critique as well. Normally it's mostly manips that have they eyes all one color which to me screams lazy unless it actually fits in with the story or narrative they are trying to deliver.

What about starting your critique with "no offense but..." and continue on from there? I know that I really don't mean any offense because you took the time to work on it and nothing is perfect but I would really love to give feedback because I see potential in a certain artist/manipper. Granted the no offense thing but does elicit some sort of defensive feeling from the artist but we really don't mean any offense.

Ugh. I will stick to giving criticism and explaining why I feel that way. Seems to be the less demoralizing way of explaining a certain aspect about a piece.
Mindwipe
09/07/13 05:29AM
I find that being frank and honest with your criticism is better than starting out with "no offense, but...", because, as you stated, that basically signals the person on the receiving end to be defensive. There's nothing wrong with saying you mean no offense once you've made your point, but saying it first can put the reader in the wrong frame of mind.

The key is just don't be a jerk. Don't say something "sucks" or anything derogatory. Point out things as "issues" or "problems" not failures. And, of course, it always helps if you know a way to fix something, to share that information. That's not to say you can't criticize even if you don't know how to fix it, but giving advice will always put you squarely in the "helpful" column, rather than the "asshole" column.
KinkyLoli
09/07/13 08:40AM
Mindwipe just said exactly what I thought *thumbs up*
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