So AI-made artworks seems to be becoming a trend on Twitter. That goes for mind control content as well. Some of these works are very close to what a human can make. So I'm preemptively raising some concerns for any AI works uploaded in the future.

1. How would it be tagged, as in attribution? Should it be attributed to the person giving the prompt? Should it be attributed to the AI that made it? Should it just be tagged "AI_art"? Is any of this even necessary?

2. AI art can be generated much faster than a human can draw. There could be a situation where the hub is flooded with AI artworks. Granted this applies also to mass-produced human-drawn works so this might not be an issue.

3. It would be quite hard to determine which art is human-drawn and which are AI-drawn. If someone does not specify a work is AI-drawn (whether accidentally or intentionally), I would think there's no way to know.

On an unrelated note I think this is bad for those who rely on commissions as income. Although I like seeing AI art just like human-drawn ones, I can't help but feel a bit sorry for those artist whose living depended on commissions.

Edit:
The mod decisions are as follows:

Mass Producable images are banned under rules of conduct so, there you go.

They are what humans have *made*. Unlike potentially writing or music, AI generated art is taking whole pieces that exist and applying effects to them or averaging them together. It is not emulating the visual art-making process, and some of the pieces it may use to put together a work could come from a DNP artist.

The problem start when people can't differenciate between an IA work and something drawed by an artist. Sometimes it's really obvious, but maybe eventually will be really hard to differenciate between both things.

Well, we already have our first pic of AI art on here, post #153931, from one of my favorite hypno 3D artists to top it off.

Despite how hot a lot of this art can be, the fact that they have the potential to be mass-produced and can get us DMCA'd to oblivion is evident enough that we shouldn't have them on the Hub.

Been a lurker here for a number of years, thought I'd make an account to share my two cents...

- It's not just AI-generated images, it's also image editing with AI (generating variations of an image, ie. changing facial expressions). This could make manips much easier, which I don't see as a problem, but an "AI-assisted" tag might be appropriate.
- AI can be used to supplement an artist's workflow. No doubt people who do this will be derided, but I'd be surprised if it doesn't take off. Here's an example of AI "speed painting": www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFnGO74KsF0
- I'm personally hoping that AI art will be allowed in some form, but low-effort AI upload spam is a potential problem. Too early to know how much of a problem though.

I'm not going to submit this of course, but here's a sample of something that I made on my machine (without a GPU even):

Initial AI-generated image: imgur.com/a/fcugBL6
Edited eyes + added drool: imgur.com/a/GJlpqTk

The drool was damned hard to get right, and there's that weird upper tooth... but it's pretty crazy to just be able to make this myself, as a non-artist.

This sounds like how NFT's are made.

Basically that, although N F T are even a lazy version of that since the AI don't even need a huge coding, they just draw some body parts, some accesories, and ask to the AI mix all the shit and edit the colors.

[quote]JustChilling said:
Well, we already have our first pic of AI art on here, post #153931, from one of favorite hypno 3D artists to top it off.
This one predated that one, even though isn't tagged as AI in the source
hypnohub.net/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=153836

Fairly sure post #151894 is also AI generated

Right now I think we should just make an AI_Generated meta tag like they do on other booru sites and see how the situation develops. The AI are only going to get better, especially with the release of new Waifu Diffusion models and that NovelAI stuff so it's better to be more reactive than precautionary because we don't know how this whole thing is going to play out. And we're still at a point where we can tell apart human art and AI art so starting the tag early is a good idea.

Verifying if something is AI or just looks kinda weird is gonna be a challenge though.

Personally I think there should be a level of effort that goes into making the images, more than this thing twitter.com/ShexyoArt/sta...;t=l9-sHYc7IFsA5aKh8FEmoA by a known tracer.

The ethics of it are still up in the air so it's understandable if we want to just upright ban them I'd think the tagging is the best compromise.

I've gone ahead and tagged the posts said here (except 153836 because I'm not absolutely sure if its AI-made or not) with "ai_art".

What did you use for this, in terms of the specific tool as well as inputs you gave? I mean, I assume this is text-to-image, but maybe you added some initial art as well? I've been testing out AI-generated MC art, but been struggling on the various engines I've found.

fully AI generated/composited images are just hyper complex low human-effort manips that make crediting the original artist both impossible and pointless.

If manips (which can be relatively low effort compared to the work being manipped) are ok, then I would say the only question relevant to this hub is how important credit is in principal.

If an image generated by an AI looks nothing like the sources the AI used to generate it, and therefor isnt going to divert attention away from the source works, is it ok that the people who actually did the work that made the image possible don't get compensated in any way, and don't get a say in whether their work is appropriated this way?

I dont have the answer, I'm just saying I think thats the only important question here

From my viewpoint it depends of the picture. Let's say something made using NovelAi.

-If the person just insert text and publish the result he did nothing, the AI is the only one that need the tag.

-If the person modify the result could works as a manip. person_manniper + novelai tags

The issue comes when we could have a kisekae 2.0 situation, a bunch of pictures being published flooding the page as mass production sets and variants. There could be also a problem with people trying to claim authory or trying to trick others making them believe it's made from scrach.

For example, these are art AI made by novelai and damn... is hard to tell that was made by a computer at first sight:

twitter.com/ribeka147/status/1578323395405828096

I was using Stable Diffusion. This program can be fed different models; the two I tried were Waifu Diffusion and Hentai Diffusion. Both can generate images with booru-like tag lists (because they were trained on danbooru/gelbooru).

Links:
- StableDiffusion setup guide: rentry.org/voldy
- Models (need at least one of these, recommend WaifuDiffusion or HentaiDiffusion): rentry.org/sdmodels
- Disabling Stable Diffusion NSFW filter: www.reddit.com/r/StableDi...e_the_safety_filter_in_5/

There was no initial art used for my image (imgur.com/a/fcugBL6), it was made from scratch. Not sure exactly what prompt I used for this image but something like:
- 1girl, (nsfw), ((masterpiece)), nude, large breasts, blush, looking at viewer, open mouth

And the negative prompt (use this to tell it what you don't want, helps for avoiding cursed stuff):
- lowres, ((bad anatomy)), bad hands, text, error, missing fingers, extra digit, fewer digits, cropped, worst quality, low quality, normal quality, jpeg artifacts, signature, watermark, username, blurry, 1boy, penis

There is also "NovelAI" as mentioned above, which is a cloud service that isn't free. I'm 99% sure it's also using Stable Diffusion but the quality seems better, maybe they have a better model than Waifu Diffusion. It doesn't seem to have quite as many features as the Stable Diffusion WebUI though (ie. no inpainting).

They don't seem to have any rules against NSFW. At least, I wasn't banned for generating this: imgur.com/a/i8iLJnq
(Prompt: {{nsfw}}, {{hypnosis}}, {{mind control}}, heart-shaped pupils, drool, smile, blush, large breasts, looking at viewer)

See also this thread about using NovelAI for nsfw stuff: www.reddit.com/r/NovelAi/..._discuss_nsfw_generation/