Posted on 2023-03-13 10:51:39
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Speaking as someone whos Star Wars knowledge is lingering resentment of the cartoon getting in the way of me watching Pokmon, and has only picked things up by osmosis, why is it the JEDI mind trick?

I mean, last I checked, the Jedi are the nominal good guys, pretty much space Buddhists when it comes to their beliefs.

So why do is the technique for affecting the weak minded in their repertoire?

That kind of sounds more like a bad guy thing.

Does it have something to do with the Sith oath mentioning breaking chains? So even though the Sith are bad guys even they have some sort of standards?

Posted on 2023-03-13 15:49:18
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The Jedi Mind Trick is mainly used by the Jedi to try and avoid violence whenever possible. It's a tool they really only use to avoid an unnecessary or pointless fight.

Remember, the Jedi are pacifists at heart, and to them violence is always an absolute last resort (this is also one reason why Jedi Masters can still have trouble dealing with a Sith Apprentice in combat, combat is pretty much the bread and butter of a Sith, while it's something the Jedi try to avoid).

Like in this scene, had Ahsoka not used the Jedi Mind Trick here, that guy likely would have attacked them for trying to get into an area they're not meant to be in, and likely would have also sounded an alarm. But thanks to the mind trick, Ahsoka was able to avoid needless bloodshed.

There's also the point in the Revenge of the Sith movie where Obi-Wan actually uses the Mind Trick on a drug dealer to make him "rethink his life", and the EU even revealed that the guy legitimately turned over a new leaf and became a law-abiding and constructive member of society.

Is it a bit shady? Sure. But the Jedi nonetheless try to use the ability in a way that will be in the best interests of everyone involved.



Of course, that doesn't mean the Sith can't or won't use the mind trick themselves, but they generally prefer to use simple intimidation or violence to get what they want instead.

Posted on 2023-03-13 16:12:16
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You know, personally, my issue with the Jedi is they take younglings from their families as infants to train them in the Force. I mean I get it's to train them and make them less likely to fall to the dark side, but not matter how you slice it, they kidnap babies. Sure they tell the parents, but I'm pretty sure the Jedi say their families can never see or speak to them again

Posted on 2023-03-13 19:32:23
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Well, a big point the sequel trilogy was ostensibly supposed to make was that the old Jedi ways weren't perfect either, and it was up to Rey and the others to forge a new, better path. The second movie, clunky as it could be, detailed this when Luke's home burned down and he passed on, the last vestiges of the old Jedi, just like how Kylo Ren killed Snoke, the last of the old Sith.

But then the third movie happened and just said AAAAAAAAH, FUCK IT, SOMEHOW PALPATINE RETURNED

Posted on 2023-03-14 04:32:55
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I know what you mean. when I saw the trailer I was all "no way. that's impossible." I mean, he got thrown into a freakin' reactor. I feel like that and Rey being his granddaughter were asspulls at best. George Lucas could've made it work and make more sense. my dad said that he wrote the whole original trilogy as it happened. well, not second-by-second, but they were almost all on the fly